Izabarack wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:46 am
Quite a lot of companies in Japan have encouraged EV uptake by installing Recharge stations in the company car parks. Employees are expected to drive to work, put the vehicle on charge for the day, then drive home and plug the vehicle into the house to use the stored energy for household needs. Idea has been going a couple of years now and the uptake is expanding.
Aust Govt is already concerned about the negative effects on revenue (fuel tax) of EV uptake. Elec supply mobs are also considering upping the standing charge for supply in anticipation of more and more people using Solar for day time needs. That concern applies to use of batteries for time shifting use of Solar energy.
Iza
There is a deal already set up in SA to sell power ultra cheap for battery charging after 10am and ending around 3pm when the evening load starts up. I expect this idea of 2 way sharing with the electric vehicle will lead to even lower cost offered during the non peak times in exchange for having the stored power available during peak demand. They do that now with house battery systems so it wouldn't be a big stretch to add in the two way EV battery to the mix.
A lot of the grid now suffers from over supply during off peak yet struggle during peak times so being able to store the excess at someone else's expense will be popular with the power companies and they can avoid huge financial outlay required to replace the failing coal fired stations they have neglected maintenance wise for so many yrs.
They know coal fired is going to be a no go due to costs and gas fired is very expensive so only profitable during peak power times. If you can get someone else to provide the equipment and storage at their own expense and maintain at their own expense, yet actually sell them excess energy when no one else wants it and give them bugger all for it when the resellers need it, it's a no brainer which way the govt lobbying will go ....
The problem they are most concerned about is people dumping the grid entirely, then they loose revenue for grid connection, their rules no longer apply and they loose the big stick they had that they would cut you off the grid if you didn't comply and energy storage at no cost to them.
There is no reason why each household with it's own electric vehicle as the main storage facility (at no extra cost) couldn't store their own solar and become their own mini grid. From there, what is there to stop residential complexes expanding on the same idea and building their own mini grid and sell power to those that need it while buying it cheap from those that can supply it ...... then big business takes up the idea and supplies an EV as the company car and uses the EV battery storage to cut down their own electricity bills ..... The death of the power network model .... big change is on the doorstep and not in the direction so many scare mongers predicted, it won't be a grid overload recharging EV's but rather a grid exodus resulting in it collapsing because private enterprise can no longer make money from it ....
The taxi industry has suffered it with the entry of Uber and other copy cat businesses, the take-away industry with Menulog and the copy cat mobs demanding a discount for the sales they generate and the loss of the add on sales when the customer is influenced by the sales posts and smells or the dine in customer who has a few drinks and adds in a desert that they would not have done if the evening hadn't been so good they didn't want it to end ..... a trick we were taught when I did my hospitality training, not only were you looking for a tip, you were looking for added sales to keep your job .....
If the Uber type idea goes big with electric vehicles and they add in the power storage benefits for a major building complex so they can be based out of their carparks, the whole parking station business model collapses and car sales fall even further because there is no longer a need for the expense of their own car for city use and a rental car will do the holiday trips if they still want to do holiday trips in a car ..... Hire a self contained motorhome perhaps? Caravan Parks turning into self contained cabins for the family to over night while the vehicle recharges or holiday resorts where an electric vehicle can be hire to sight see etc and return at night for the holiday park to recharge and maintain????
T1 Terry
