Wrong argument
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Wrong argument
I think this is supposed to be an anti-gun control sticker...
Unfortunately he has argued the case for gun control... it’s the people who buy and use them who need to be vetted very carefully.You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
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Re: Wrong argument
I think the point they're making is a loaded gun needs a human to do the shooting.
It won't do anything by its self.
I know I could have a stack of loaded and ready to use killing appliances and not one of them is dangerous until I pick them up and point it at a sentient being.
I remember when I was a lad many years ago it was a rite of passage to get a .22 rifle and to go bunny shooting with Dad and the Unkles.
There were also the Military Cadets who carried their rifles on public transport to school and Military Functions.
Of course there were severe rules for gun controls then, as now, and when you handled one you knew what you had been taught came with severe penalties if you mucked up.
But the youth of my time were more mature and responsible, some even had full tradesman quals by the time they were 21 , unlike today's youth with no sense of responsibility and care.
Some in my Dad's day even cheated their age to enlist as they were considered too young @16, today's youth need a "Safe Room" at 21 +
of course this does not apply to ALL of today's youth
Ron
It won't do anything by its self.
I know I could have a stack of loaded and ready to use killing appliances and not one of them is dangerous until I pick them up and point it at a sentient being.
I remember when I was a lad many years ago it was a rite of passage to get a .22 rifle and to go bunny shooting with Dad and the Unkles.
There were also the Military Cadets who carried their rifles on public transport to school and Military Functions.
Of course there were severe rules for gun controls then, as now, and when you handled one you knew what you had been taught came with severe penalties if you mucked up.
But the youth of my time were more mature and responsible, some even had full tradesman quals by the time they were 21 , unlike today's youth with no sense of responsibility and care.
Some in my Dad's day even cheated their age to enlist as they were considered too young @16, today's youth need a "Safe Room" at 21 +
of course this does not apply to ALL of today's youth
Ron
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Re: Wrong argument
Ditto, Ron.
I was severely reprimanded for killing a sparrow in flight, despite the marksmanship involved. It wasn't endangering anyone or anything. Air rifle privileges were withdrawn for a week.
Crows circling over our chicken run were fair game, though. Score: Me - 6; Crows - Nil. Chooks remained unmolested, for some funny reason...
I was severely reprimanded for killing a sparrow in flight, despite the marksmanship involved. It wasn't endangering anyone or anything. Air rifle privileges were withdrawn for a week.
Crows circling over our chicken run were fair game, though. Score: Me - 6; Crows - Nil. Chooks remained unmolested, for some funny reason...
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Re: Wrong argument
Pretty fair sort of an effort, hitting a bird on the wing with an air gun. I would have given you a medal, then the kick up the date that you rightfully deserved. Kids these days don't even know what an air rifle is.
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Re: Wrong argument
I know what an air rifle is.
I shot a cop in the arse with a dart from an air rifle many, many years ago. He was not impressed, you know the bulls you see in the saleyards getting pissed off?
Nothing on this gentlemans rage !
Long story but will tell with lots of encouragement, or not.
I shot a cop in the arse with a dart from an air rifle many, many years ago. He was not impressed, you know the bulls you see in the saleyards getting pissed off?
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Re: Wrong argument
Not too sure about the gun thing but Chuck and I are rather good with a burly chucker
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Re: Wrong argument
Tell us more!Busman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:34 pm I know what an air rifle is.
I shot a cop in the arse with a dart from an air rifle many, many years ago. He was not impressed, you know the bulls you see in the saleyards getting pissed off?
Nothing on this gentlemans rage !
Long story but will tell with lots of encouragement, or not.
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Re: Wrong argument
There is another element that has been missed in all this "people kill, not guns" debate. I don't know anyone who could pick up an open sight gun and kill someone at anything but point blank range the first time they used it. In fact, not many people could even load a gun without some sort of training.
Just like cars, no training, no instilling the responsibility involved, no licence. No licence, no car and no gun. Make all cars and all guns in operative unless the licence is in the slot, not the correct licence, the device still doesn't function.
No high powered sports car for anyone without the advanced driver training, nothing more than an air rifle for an unlicensed shooter. Caught driving a car or carrying a gun without the correct licence, gaol, no ifs or buts, illegally in the possession of a deadly implement no matter if there was intent to commit an act of violence or not ........
This could be the influence of the good drugs .... my opinion on the matter may change at a later date
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Just like cars, no training, no instilling the responsibility involved, no licence. No licence, no car and no gun. Make all cars and all guns in operative unless the licence is in the slot, not the correct licence, the device still doesn't function.
No high powered sports car for anyone without the advanced driver training, nothing more than an air rifle for an unlicensed shooter. Caught driving a car or carrying a gun without the correct licence, gaol, no ifs or buts, illegally in the possession of a deadly implement no matter if there was intent to commit an act of violence or not ........
This could be the influence of the good drugs .... my opinion on the matter may change at a later date
T1 Terry
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Re: Wrong argument
Yup. I was a pretty good shot at 15~19...supersparky wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:15 pm Pretty fair sort of an effort, hitting a bird on the wing with an air gun. I would have given you a medal, then the kick up the date that you rightfully deserved. Kids these days don't even know what an air rifle is.
I also shot a mouse on the run ... through the eye!
At 100 yards I could write my initials in a tree trunk.
Have not even held a rifle of any sort since then!
(Unless you count one time at the Melbourne Show in 1975. )
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Re: Wrong argument
When I was living in West Hoxton (back of Liverpool) we were next door to a turkey farm. At night we'd go rat shooting in the turkey sheds with bird shoot in the 22. They'd fall off the water pipes that fed the day time sprinkles and the turkeys would tear them to shreds before they could get away. When they did the gourmet birds, we changed the sport to air rifles so we didn't damage the poly pipes, too risky to get in there to repair any leaks because the big birds would tear us to shreds if we fell over .... The trick was to shot the rat in the snout, it would leap p in the air and miss the pipe on the way back down .... I reckon they didn't even make it to the floor ...... developed a whole new respect for turkeys after seeing them in a feeding frenzy, vicious creatures. These were big rats, but no match for these turkeys.
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