OH Crappppp

[T1 Terry]

How long ago was back then Terry?

Does everone enjoy picking on Terry?

PeterH

It was at the first Berri (SA) rally I think. We didn't even have the Kombi back then, but we did have the big bus project in the back yard where I was living at the time So it must have been around '98 or '99 .....

I sure hope they do Peter, I'd hate to be the pickie if no one was enjoying it

T1 Terry

[2foot6]

Does everone enjoy picking on Terry?

PeterH

YEP

[Dot]

Does everone enjoy picking on Terry?

PeterH

YEP

BLOODY OATH WE DO

[nut17]

Our son and I recently splashed out and embraced EV ownership. Our son loves technology and performance, so opted for a new Model "Y" Tesla - single motor and claimed 440km range. I however, took a more conservative path and after considerable research settled on a MY2023 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV VRX (NZ spec top model and similar price to the Tesla)
I have now covered 6200km in the Mitzi and very pleased with my purchase. The claimed 84 km EV range is more realistically 70 km but is rarely exceeded on a daily basis. The 20 KWH battery is never completely discharged so as to enable efficient hybrid functionality, so our current cost to travel 70 km is NZ $3.20 using night rate cheap power. We do have 6.6 KW solar on the house, but the night rate power is the same as the pay back for surplus solar fed to the grid during the day, so night charging is the best option. If we wish to travel a longer journey this car is cheaper to run as a hybrid on 91 octane petrol than purchasing electricity from commercially available public charging stations - even with the current blow out of fossil fuel costs. Example - If I start with a full battery and complete a 200 km journey I will have to travel approximately 130 km in hybrid mode averaging 5.5 lt / 100 km = About $18.00 petrol and $3.20 for electricity. Public fast chargers vary in efficiency and cost with most of them having a KWH charge plus a per minute time charge. The best I have managed so far is an 80% charge in 35 minutes for $12.80. Two of those top ups would still not get me the extra 130 km.
The Tesla with a claimed 440 km range realistically is closer to 300 km as the fast chargers will only go to 80% and even slightly "spirited" driving style drastically effects the actual range. On the plus side it goes like a scalded cat and sticks to the road like s..t to a blanket and is a blast to drive. But, any realistic trip over about 250 km must include a planned battery top up to avoid range anxiety. Public Tesla Charging is $0.85 /KWH
Our Outlander replaces my recently sold and redundant Jeep Grand Cherokee Diesel primarily used as our caravan tug and secondly for launching my river jet boat on shingle river beds. The Outlander performs the jet boat towing function superbly with full time 4WD and masses of low down torque copes with launching on the shingle almost as good as the Jeep.
So, right now - In NZ anyway, a plug in hybrid with a reasonable range is the way to go. I have travelled 1380 km over the last month and have not consumed 1 drop of petrol. I love sticking my finger up as I drive past a petrol outlet. However, they still stick it to me with the motorhome as diesel is now on a $ par with 91 octane petrol here in NZ and we still have $8.20 / 100 km road tax on top of that. Motorhome now sets me back about $40.00 / 100 km (diesel + tax)

[T1 Terry]

The diesel price here in Mannum would equal 14ltr/100km to match the $40 per 100kms.
You might have to change the house battery to 48v configuration and add a drive assist to make it a hybrid as well
Can you recharge the Outlander from the 240vac supply out of the motorhome? We were doing that with the Hino when I had the extended range battery in the Prius, I might do the same with the new LTO set up when I get it running until I get the solar up on the workshop roof .... it's a long way to fall from up there .... and I haven't even stepped on the roof here yet

T1 Terry

[T1 Terry]

This might be intersting for all the doubters out there
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/video/rally ... /c3motpllz

The other interesting news piece was over the weekend the ABC had one of those news crawler things that the EU will ban the sales of all petrol and diesel cars in 2035. It's almost the end of 2022, so the last sales over there will be the end of 2034 ...... about 11 yrs remaining for the petrol and diesel powered cars in Europe ..... that is a big market and vehicle manufacturers will be very unlikely to develop any new fuel powered vehicles with 11 yrs left in one of the bigger markets, so it looks like electric vehicles are coming, whether you like it or not .....

T1 Terry

[Newcastle George]

That refers to NEW petrol or diesel cars Terry, not all petrol or diesel cars.

George

[Greynomad]

Great, Terry,
When we’re forced to switch to an EV motorhome, I needn’t worry about ‘range anxiety’ — or the severe lack of EV charging stations in Australia — all I need is a couple of trucks (with crew) to follow me with biodiesel generators on the back!

All that SBS item proved is that Teslas are built with suspension which can handle Australian dirt roads.

[Dot]

Why worry about it none of us will be here let alone have any sort of license

[jon_d]

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We should be thankful that Terry is not also a vegan. I can cope with the EV barrage, but throw in vegan and I'd go nuts. (vegan nut that is.)