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T1 Terry wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:27 am
Noggins wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:51 am I'm looking at replacing the belt driven compressor with an electric driven unit so the front AC vents can run without the engine running .... and maybe a unit big enough for a second head unit for the bedroom .... a future project.

T1 Terry


Actually, you do not need to replace the belt-driven compressor, it's quite a simple process to fit a second parallel electric compressor and have a change-over switch relay to reroute the gas flow through the electric compressor.
Turn the ignition on and it uses the motor compressor, key off, uses electric compressor and 240V condensor fan = Simples
Your main problem will be a 240v fan big enough to keep the condensor in the circuit, a simple process if you have some old condensor units laying around to "borrow" a good fan from.

A/C for plant equipment used to be my specialty when the R.O.P.S ( Roll Over Protection ) was brought into force many years ago.


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Thanks Ron, I've been trying to get my head around what size the compressor needs to be and if I could add a second head unit in the bedroom if I did the dual compressor thing, would the belt driven unit be big enough to do both?
I still haven't found the condenser location, but then I haven't really looked. I can mount 24v fans on it if I can find it so it can run off the start batteries when the engine is running and the house batteries when parked up.

I did think about the electric air con system in the salvage MG4 I bought, it has reverse cycle and a heat exchanger because it also controls battery temp and motor transaxle and inverter temp along with climate control in the cabin, but I think I'll keep that intact for the big project of turning my '74 Kombi into an EV.

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The compressor fitted will , usually, be a 10 Cfm unit, unless it's a Delco then it's a 12CFm, so a similar size will be needed if keeping a similar system
To run 2 systems get a Delco ( GM Vehicles) and then you can use it to power both systems at the same time, remember as one is working flat out this end of the bus the other end may be just idling along or cycled out.

The motor-driven A/C system will usually have the condenser fitted in front of the radiator.
It may have a 12v / 24v fan forced condenser fitted elsewhere in the bus then it's an easy conversion to make it 240V with a small inverter to run it independently of the bus system.
Another way is to get a Condenser and Compressor from a BIG split system and use that for both the motor-driven system or the 240V system , depends on the available space around the bus to fit it.
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Congratulations!!!!
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Congratulations Bernie n Carol

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Congratulations Bernie and Carol, enjoy your celebrations

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Thankyou Ron and Bruce. If the condenser is with the radiator, that will be a no go as far as replacing it with a 24v fan, although that could open up other possibilities ....

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Arvo all, congrats Bernie n Carol, Beautiful day apart from G hitting the watering pipe (plastic) so now he has to fix that :lol:
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T1 Terry wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:54 am Thankyou Ron and Bruce. If the condenser is with the radiator, that will be a no go as far as replacing it with a 24v fan, although that could open up other possibilities ....

T1 Terry
Found the condenser, it's not very big so the whole air con system to feed the front vents must be fairly small.
Now to determine which would be the better option:
A single larger compressor and two head units
or
Two smaller independent systems and leave the mechanical system as is ....

The larger compressor and two head units would also require a larger condenser, then probably do away with the mechanical compressor, a lot of wasted set up that is already working fine.
Comparing the costs for a large compressor and a dual head unit to an inverter type rooftop rattler is the next thing to look at .....

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BernieQ2 wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:10 am Morning.
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