Our "New to Us" Winnie

[supersparky]

The last time I went looking, the sales guy claimed that any fridge with a 10 year warranty on the compressor is an inverter type.
I don't know if that is totally accurate or not.
We are getting the fridge that the insurance is paying for, so we don't really have much say. Our doorway is 615mm wide, it is a bit wider if you take the frame out but haven't had the need to do that yet.

[jon_d]

I have a simple Aldi compressor fridge.

It needs a decent inverter to get the compressor started.

Trouble was, the big inverter had a massive "standby current" and overnight, it would consume upto 24 plus ah including cooling.

I couldn't find an inverter fridge then. Samsung stopped making the small one and all the rest were to big.

Eventually the inverter died so I installed a Victon with its fully programmable eco mode.

Now,the inverter fully shuts down at night and only starts up when the fridge's mechanical thermostat toggles and the inverter detects a load.

This concept won't work with an electronic thermostat.


So, you don't necessarily need an inverter fridge....

[T1 Terry]

I have a simple Aldi compressor fridge.

It needs a decent inverter to get the compressor started.

Trouble was, the big inverter had a massive "standby current" and overnight, it would consume upto 24 plus ah including cooling.

I couldn't find an inverter fridge then. Samsung stopped making the small one and all the rest were to big.

Eventually the inverter died so I installed a Victon with its fully programmable eco mode.

Now,the inverter fully shuts down at night and only starts up when the fridge's mechanical thermostat toggles and the inverter detects a load.

This concept won't work with an electronic thermostat.


So, you don't necessarily need an inverter fridge....

Getting that search mode current tuned can be rather tricky .... to high and the fridge light won't turn, too low and it no sooner goes into search mode that a load will reset the timer ..... but really, zero load is 15w, SEA load is 11w and search mode is 4w, at the constant 15w load, 12hrs over night is only 180w, with a 12v battery that's only around 12Ah, not very much out of a 600Ah 12v battery .... might be for a lead acid battery I suppose, but these Sodium ion batteries, I doubt I'll bother trying to set it up ....

If you can get away with using the Victron 375w dedicated unit, it will drop into eco mode and only draw 0.9w while waiting for something to happen, it checks every 2.5 secs to see if there is a load high enough to turn it on, but on no load, draw is only 5.6w, 67w over a 12 hr period .....

T1 Terry

[BruceS]

Terry mine used to go into defrost mode each nite.
Often wondered if it could be changed to daytime?

[jon_d]

Wasn't that tricky for me.

tricky.jpg

[T1 Terry]

Terry mine used to go into defrost mode each nite.
Often wondered if it could be changed to daytime?

The auto defrost is supposed to run on a time clock that was powered while the compressor was running, so the defrost cycle was a bit of a random event if viewed by a 24 hr clock. The way the ones I know of worked, they switch the supply to the compressor to the heater units, if it was a model with the evaporator in the back wall of the fridge, that went through a defrost cycle after .... 12hr I think it was, the one in the freezer was more like 36hrs compressor run time and had a far more aggressive heater element in the heatsink, the circulation fan would be switched out, so only the heat sink came up to 1*C, then the defrost cycle ended and the normal operating cycle resumed .....

For a while, some manufacturers had a system of vents to redirected the air from the top of the fridge cabinet, over the freezer heatsink and directed down the back wall of the fridge to the crisper bins ..... The idea was to push the warm air up by filling the lower part with cold air .... but they would also melt the ice that formed on the back wall and leave a puddle of water under the crisper bins .... open the fridge door and the flood gates were opened and is poured out onto the floor and your feet if you were standing there

T1 Terry

[T1 Terry]

Wasn't that tricky for me.

tricky.jpg

You have (in a different voice 1) ..... notifications .....probably wants another update .....

Is ECO AES mode or no load shut down, the no load shutdown I believe has to be set using a computer .... but I believe there is a patch cord and program stripped down for Android phones ..... but I've never used one, so I don't know how much of the programming capability is stripped out to accommodate the simpler phone programming ..... I know that it's not available via bluetooth .....

I doubt they could dumb it down enough to work on an Apple phone, I think they are limited to the blue tooth functions ....

[jon_d]

Wasn't that tricky for me.

tricky.jpg

You have (in a different voice 1) ..... notifications .....probably wants another update .....

Is ECO AES mode or no load shut down, the no load shutdown I believe has to be set using a computer .... but I believe there is a patch cord and program stripped down for Android phones ..... but I've never used one, so I don't know how much of the programming capability is stripped out to accommodate the simpler phone programming ..... I know that it's not available via bluetooth .....

I doubt they could dumb it down enough to work on an Apple phone, I think they are limited to the blue tooth functions ....

I have no idea what you're talking about. It's all done using the app, I was just showing the settings to help get past the "trickyness".

The notification is not what you're guessing it is.

[T1 Terry]

Wasn't that tricky for me.

tricky.jpg

You have (in a different voice 1) ..... notifications .....probably wants another update .....

Is ECO AES mode or no load shut down, the no load shutdown I believe has to be set using a computer .... but I believe there is a patch cord and program stripped down for Android phones ..... but I've never used one, so I don't know how much of the programming capability is stripped out to accommodate the simpler phone programming ..... I know that it's not available via bluetooth .....

I doubt they could dumb it down enough to work on an Apple phone, I think they are limited to the blue tooth functions ....

I have no idea what you're talking about. It's all done using the app, I was just showing the settings to help get past the "trickyness".

The notification is not what you're guessing it is.

This is from the inverter specs PDF

Victron power save settings.jpeg

The first column and three different figures are for the 12/3000, 24/3000, 48/3000 inverters
The second column is the 12/5000, 24/5000, 48/5000

I can say for certain, but I believe the "eco" mode is the same as AES, the real power saver is the zero load search mode, and that can't be programmed via a bluetooth app, you need to dive into the programming by linking it to a computer data cable, make the changes, save then to a file, then upload them into the inverter

T1 Terry

[jon_d]

Terry,

2 watts. (24v/3000w)

I think you're looking at the wrong manual.
https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/do ... pdf-en.pdf

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