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Re: What a great race
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:51 pm
by Greynomad
So, how would they police picking standard production cars for the teams to enter into each yrs racing calendar?
T1,
It's called
"scrutineering", and in the
Good Olde Days the race results were not confirmed until all Class winners' & placegetters' cars underwent a complete strip-down to check against manufacturers' specifications.
So there! Hmmm?
(And if you're wondering, they're all plural possessives, so the apostrophes are in the correct places.)
Re: What a great race
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:57 pm
by Dot
And when the scrutineering was first done nothing and no one was able to touch that car.
Re: What a great race
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:01 am
by Greynomad
And if I remember correctly*, the scrutineers sealed the carbies & other bits...
*
Sometimes that's a gamble!
Re: What a great race
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:42 pm
by T1 Terry
There is a lot that can be done to an engine and it still remain within the manufacturers specifications. That is what blueprinting is, removing all those mass production tolerances and bringing the engine back to the drawing board specifications. Then you can add reconditioning to within the manufacturers design limits, the old HP Holden red motor block starting life as a 179 and ending up as 212 but still within manufacturing specs. The Datsun 1600 becoming a 2.2 ltr, the Celica 18R engine becoming an 18RGU as in Peter Williamson's Celica that placed outright in the whole field, not just in class.
Re: What a great race
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:17 pm
by El Gringo
The days when win on Sunday - sell on Monday are long gone, and we are the worse for it.
Yes Supercars can be exiting, but they are totally irrelivent today.
Bathurst in the 60's and early 70's was relevent - even if some cheated...
The only racing since, that was in the same theme was the Bathurs 12 hour from 91 to 94.
And lots of factory teams took part - Holden, Ford, Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Peugeot, Citroen etc.
No exotics were allowed to enter.
Completely stock everything, even tyres (though most buffed them)
Only mod from stock was a roll cage.
Do you remember Brock in the Pug?
Have seen a clip of him following a Citroen - he couldn't believe how much faster the BX16V was than the 205 across the top of the mountain.
That's is the sort of racing I would like to see again, not necessarily 12 hours though.
There are lots of non exotics these days that are worth seeing on a track.
And I reckon Manufacturers would come back.
I would like to see the classes based on price, and a price limit as to cars that could enter.
Perhaps an SUV class would be interesting. Be fun to watch them roll over from the slightest touch...
Cheers,
Re: What a great race
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:12 pm
by T1 Terry
Maybe a production 8 hr race on the long weekend that the original Bathurst 500/1000 was held. Then the Supercars can race the next week end and the fans would get 2 weeks of motor racing.
Re: What a great race
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:47 pm
by bagmaker
maybe just ban all driver/pit communications, except boards on the straight
Re: What a great race
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:29 pm
by Dot
bagmaker wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:47 pm
maybe just ban all driver/pit communications, except boards on the straight
I was the board girl for Maurie Quincey (my prev husb was his mechanic)
Re: What a great race
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:43 pm
by BernieQ2
Couldn't see you "bored" Dot ......
Bernie .
Re: What a great race
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:35 pm
by supersparky
It looks to me that all of us old farts are living in the good old days. When it was fun and you could massage the rules a bit. Bring it back and they will get my vote. We could even use some new tech stuff and cheat better.
