Lithium Batteries, who has them?

[bagmaker]

well presented, I got -
the big players are determined to milk us plebs any way they can. By keeping eveyone hooked into the grid -essentially to prop it up and assist in reducing coal fired capacity- they can charge us and will hit users with "fees' and "service charges" and all the rest of their pin-striped parasitic corporate rubbish.
The BEST thing for us to do would be fit units to our houses just like in our RVs as shown by T1 and the other front-runners. NO grid connection. Pricing will come down to an acceptable level with batteries, charging methods will be suited to the area, perhaps solar, perhaps wind, perhaps micro-turbine or steam turbine or carnot cycle somethings (dont forget steam folks!) They want to run a wire past my house in the future, you can pay ME for the eyesore, I am not paying them for the "Service".

But on the whole a well presented, positive show

[nut17]

Well, after the debacle experienced with the failure of my 1080w semi flexible panel array, I am pleased to announce that the replacement conventional panels are working perfectly. I commissioned six 200w 36vmp panels on December 26th and we have had the van running continuously off grid, but completely powered via a PSW 2000w inverter since that date. We have not had to conserve our electricity consumption and on most days we have been heating our water via 230v. The 600 Ah LiFePO4 pack is performing brilliantly and I have settled on 14v as the maximum charge voltage. Cell balance is still almost perfect.

Still ecstatic with our lithium !!

Cheers Chris

[BruceS]

Chris can you tell us a bit about the failure?
Did you claim on them? What do you think was the cause of the failure?

[Mrcoolabah1au]

bad news

[Chuck]

Yours, or someone else. ?

[nut17]

The panels suffered from two main issues. Firstly, there was corrosion where the factory installed cables were connected to the panels. The surface mount junction boxes were not properly sealed and the grub screw connection hidden by a poorly dispersed glob of silicone was rusting away. Secondly over half the panels had begun to delaminate around the edges - Some up to 50mm. These panels had only been exposed to the elements for seven months when they began to fail. The semi flexible array comprised eight 135w 24v panels which performed faultlessly when first installed.

I did get a full cash refund and purchased the replacement conventional panels from the same supplier. My only real losses were adhesive, cabling and my labour and did I mention "Stress"

Cheers Chris

[Greynomad]

No, Chris,
You didn't mention "stress"...
Caused or received?

[aussiejohnny]

I've just jumped on the Lithium bandwagon. Have 4 x 400ah Winston cells sitting at home waiting for me to piece everything else together. Wishing i had read the pro's of going a pack of smaller cells before i purchased these ones, but oh well.. oops.

Slowly going through this thread and many other informative threads and posts i have found. Very interesting stuff! A bit tricky too..

Either way i look forward to getting it all up and running and proving to my old man that his massive heavy LA banks in his motorhome aren't as good! haha

[pet-els]

Uncontained solar energy could irreparably damage the ecosystem and kill countless animals and humans, according to Louisiana Mid-Continent Oil and Gas Association President Chris John.

The former four-term congressman from Crowley told a gathering of Rotarians at the Lafayette Petroleum Club that solar energy is much more dangerous to the environment and human life than most people realize.

John said many people think solar power is harmless because they’re in the sun all the time and are perfectly healthy, but the state’s top advocate for petroleum interests insists vast amounts of solar energy could potentially kill thousands of people, ravage untold acres of wildlife, and make entire cities uninhabitable for centuries to come.

Such a “solar spill” would be like “Chernobyl plus Fukushima to the power of Three Mile Island.”



“A lot of people are suffering from the delusion that solar power is safe because it’s natural, but solar energy is radiation, for crying out loud! That stuff will kill you!” John told attendees of the weekly meeting of the Rotary Club of Lafayette. “If we start storing enough solar energy to replace what we’re using now and it leaks out, God help us all.”

LMOGA Pres. Chris John
LMOGA Pres. Chris John
John said such a “solar spill” would be like “Chernobyl plus Fukushima to the power of Three Mile Island.”

He also challenged the notion that the sun is an inexhaustible source of power that would help America’s energy independence.

“Solar is not a renewable energy source. The sun will implode in a few billion years, which means it won’t be around forever,” John stated. “Plus, we’re trying to develop more energy from right here in America, so why would we spend billions importing energy from a source that’s 93 million miles away? That’s just stupid.”

[T1 Terry]

Uncontained solar energy could irreparably damage the ecosystem and kill countless animals and humans, according to Louisiana Mid-Continent Oil and Gas Association President Chris John.

The former four-term congressman from Crowley told a gathering of Rotarians at the Lafayette Petroleum Club that solar energy is much more dangerous to the environment and human life than most people realize.

John said many people think solar power is harmless because they’re in the sun all the time and are perfectly healthy, but the state’s top advocate for petroleum interests insists vast amounts of solar energy could potentially kill thousands of people, ravage untold acres of wildlife, and make entire cities uninhabitable for centuries to come.

Such a “solar spill” would be like “Chernobyl plus Fukushima to the power of Three Mile Island.”



“A lot of people are suffering from the delusion that solar power is safe because it’s natural, but solar energy is radiation, for crying out loud! That stuff will kill you!” John told attendees of the weekly meeting of the Rotary Club of Lafayette. “If we start storing enough solar energy to replace what we’re using now and it leaks out, God help us all.”

LMOGA Pres. Chris John
LMOGA Pres. Chris John
John said such a “solar spill” would be like “Chernobyl plus Fukushima to the power of Three Mile Island.”

He also challenged the notion that the sun is an inexhaustible source of power that would help America’s energy independence.

“Solar is not a renewable energy source. The sun will implode in a few billion years, which means it won’t be around forever,” John stated. “Plus, we’re trying to develop more energy from right here in America, so why would we spend billions importing energy from a source that’s 93 million miles away? That’s just stupid.”

Only in America...but sadly we had a prime minister who believed wind farms cause health problems, yet couldn't explain why the only ones suffering these health problems were further away from the wind turbines than the people who actually had them on their property. Seems that being paid to have the wind turbine on your property makes you immune to this mystery disease, you only suffer this non descript disease if you weren't lucky enough to get the wind turbines on your property

T1 Terry