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Re: Our "New to Us" Winnie

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:44 am
by jon_d
but I put the new EGO brush cutter together and slashed the weeds along the fence on the kitchen builder's side ... and put a good size slash in the copper pipe that supplied water to the workshop .... so that took a while to sort as well.
I'm lost for words....


But good that the compression is coming up. I wonder in a secondary problem is being introduced with all the shortening?

Re: Our "New to Us" Winnie

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:36 am
by T1 Terry
Possibly Jon, but if this motor comes out, it will not be going back in, the Winnie will go hybrid. I'd love to go full electric, but there are just too many kms between charging spots for something that weighs 10 tonne

T1 Terry

Re: Our "New to Us" Winnie

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 2:40 pm
by Shirley
Are not some semis going electric these days 🤔

Re: Our "New to Us" Winnie

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 3:21 pm
by T1 Terry
Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 2:40 pm Are not some semis going electric these days 🤔
At the moment there are retro fit electric truck conversions https://www.januselectric.com.au/ but the battery swap locations are only on the major routes at the moment.
Truck battery recharging sites are limited to fleet depots at the moment, a few companies have their sights set on adding recharging sites along every major truck route by 2040, I'll be 85 by then so I doubt I'd be using many of the later installed units :lol:

Hybrid just makes more sense to me. The battery pack powers the electric drive and braking is via regeneration that pumps electrical energy back into the battery rather than burning out brake linings and generating heat to control vehicle speed on a down hill run or stop start driving. The majority of battery charging would be by solar, but by coupling an engine to the front of the electric motor and putting the transmission in neutral, the engine would drive the electric motor like a generator, recharging the battery quicker if needed, so none of that range anxiety between electric charging spots if we are off the major highway routes

T1 Terry

Re: Our "New to Us" Winnie

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:13 pm
by Dot
T1 Terry wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:36 am Possibly Jon, but if this motor comes out, it will not be going back in, the Winnie will go hybrid. I'd love to go full electric, but there are just too many kms between charging spots for something that weighs 10 tonne

T1 Terry
But Terry, that's what your genny is for :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Our "New to Us" Winnie

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:17 pm
by T1 Terry
Dot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:13 pm
T1 Terry wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:36 am Possibly Jon, but if this motor comes out, it will not be going back in, the Winnie will go hybrid. I'd love to go full electric, but there are just too many kms between charging spots for something that weighs 10 tonne

T1 Terry
But Terry, that's what your genny is for :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
It would need to be a Genie (in a bottle) to make a charging station appear Dottie :lol: The 5kw inverter running at full output continuous would take 160 hrs run time to replace 400kms of battery power. It would take the Lexus V6 driving the L110 hybrid transmission at 50% regen 6 hrs to do the same job, 50 full sun days to recharge from solar.
Easier to run hybrid, the V6 only used for take off and hill assist, electric for cruising while there was still energy in the battery and let the regen add some back into the battery rather than wasting all that energy as friction heat through the brakes or driving a compressor by using the engine and exhaust brake. If we need to do back to back 400km drives, then it would be mostly the V6 doing the work and we just put up with the fuel cost.

T1 Terry

Re: Our "New to Us" Winnie

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:26 pm
by T1 Terry
Finally finished cleaning up the coils and rubber spark plug sleeves to get all the crap out of them, refitted them up and connected the maze of wiring ......and actually got it started to check for proper oil flow ..... :o that's gunna take a while to clean off the concrete :twisted:
Did the magician trick getting the tappet covers back on with the inlet manifold already installed .... but not enough left in the battery to start it again, so that will have to wait till tomorrow. Seems the house battery charges while the engine is running, but the house batteries do not recharge the start battery ..... another thing to sort out ..... at a later date :roll:

T1 Terry

Re: Our "New to Us" Winnie

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:53 pm
by Dot
Are those charging poles different power to what a genny puts out???

Re: Our "New to Us" Winnie

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 8:41 am
by supersparky
Terry, were you running it without any of the belts connected? Otherwise alternator should charge batts?

Re: Our "New to Us" Winnie

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:55 pm
by T1 Terry
Dot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:53 pm Are those charging poles different power to what a genny puts out???
Either single phase at a much higher rate than a genny, roughly 7 kw continuous, 3 phase at around 22kw and fast DC at 150kwand ultra fast DC at 200kw. It is expected, when the truck EV charging rolls out, around 500kwDC to 800kwDC, or the battery swap method that takes half the time to add 400km of electric fuel to the time taken to add 400kms of diesel.
Generally, the faster the charge, the more expensive, the 7kw is around 25c kwh, the 3 phase 22kw around 33c kwh and the rapid and ultra rapid DC at around 62c kwh, so around $240 to recharge a 400kwh battery and around 2 hrs. So you would only use the ultra rapid DC chargers is you were in a hurry. The cost for the 800kw truck DC charging is as yet an unknown, but estimation are around $1 kwh to $1.20 kwh and this will be via battery to battery charging, the donor battery will most likely be a tired truck battery rebuilt to a higher voltage and recharged via solar or cheap power during the day when the grid actually pays people to take excess grid supply to store in batteries. The aim is to decentralise the load points so wind and solar farms don't have to push the power all the way to the city where it would normally be used, it can be stored in more remote areas and accessed as needed.

T1 Terry