The Iveco "TANK"
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:40 pm
I am back on the road as from yesterday with a full rebuild engine in the "Leisure Seeker" and around $15,000 less in my ready available funds. Coles have Weis Bars on Special ($5.00) but I missed out on that as I only did a quick fresh/perishable shop at Farmer Jacks.
I have posted a rather lengthy post on my Injector matter for general interest-- You will need a nice hot cuppa and a scone to get through it. The outcome is that the injector repairer will not accept any liability and maintains that this was caused by a pre-existing problem.
IVECO INJECTOR FAILURE-SEQUENCE OF EVENTS.
On considering the diesel and oil consumption to date, and the distance driven over the period I have owned this motorhome, it is my opinion that the work done on the injectors has caused or greatly contributed to the engine failure and I list the sequence of events for consideration and evaluation. ***note: Saturday, 1st August 2015 entry.
Tuesday 21 July 2015:
[Skippers Trucks fitted Air Horns. Speedo reading 141,143 km].
United Injectors inspected my concern of slight puff of white smoke from exhaust after short period of idle when revs first increased. I asked the mechanic to run Computer Diagnostic for fault codes. The mechanic did not have correct plug and he would try to obtain one on Saturday (25 July) and as the workshop was very busy he booked in for me to return on Tuesday, 28th July.
Tuesday 28 July 2015: Speedo reading 141,525 km].
I arrived at United Injector premises at 08:00am. The mechanic informed me that they had not obtained the on-board computer plug. The mechanic told me that four new injectors would be about the same cost and could be air bagged from the supplier to arrive the next morning (Wednesday) so I gave the go-ahead to obtain and fit new injectors.
The Service Manager told me that the workshop was very busy, and asked if I could come back on Thursday for the work to be completed. This delay was inconvenient to me as I was living in the motorhome with my dog and I had no other accommodation. It was agreed that I could remain in the motorhome overnight with my dog, parked in United Injectors secure/locked premises.
Wednesday 29th July 2015:
The new injectors did not arrive by air-bag as expected and they had not been dispatched from the supplier. (Bosch in Melbourne). I was told that the existing injectors would be serviced and refitted.
After removing and testing the injectors, I was informed that 3 of the 4 injectors had failed the test and needed replacing at a cost of (quoted ) $2,300.00.
With no alternative option, I agreed to the reconditioning of the existing injectors to have the vehicle servicable again in the shortest possible time.
Thursday 30th July 2015:
After some delay with the servicing the injectors were fitted and the engine was road tested for a short drive of a few kilometers around the local area.
I paid the invoice amount of $2,2007.00, allowing a discount due to the time taken for the work to be completed. I decided to return to my residence at Wyalkatchem to load the on-road fresh food supplies for my extended trip around Australia.
I refueled with diesel at Shell Midland, and after driving approx 92 km on the Toodjay-Goomalling road the oil warning light came on, and the injector warning light started flashing. I stopped the vehicle on the [narrow] roadside and checked the oil. The dipstick was showing just below the min mark. I called the Service Manager (Mr. Retief) at United Injectors and told him of this problem.
Mr. Retif suggested that I drive the motorhome to Toodjay and park in the caravan park as he had a contact mechanic in that area. It would be difficult for me to turn the motorhome around on the narrow section of the road in the very heavy rain, it was decided that I would continue driving (about the same distance-about 20+ km.) to the Caravan Park at Goomalling, which I did after filling the oil level to the max mark on the dipstick.
Friday, 31st July 2015:
I phoned Mr. Retif at 08:30am and he arranged for Joel Carr from Carr's Automotive, Goomalling to attend me at the caravan park and inspect the motor fault. Joel arrived just after 09:00am and on looking at the engine it was found that there was very little oil in the sump.
Joel added oil and had me drive to his workshop where he could make a more detail inspection.
Carr's mechanic found that oil was being blown out of the motor from the oil filler pipe, and that there was a lot of smoke from the breather when the filler cap was in place, indication a pressure in the sump possibly from a blown or cracked piston, which he thought was from an injector over-fuelling and causing a piston crack or meltdown.
Joel reported his findings with United Injectors by phone call to Mr. Retif. I drove the motorhome (at a slow speed) to my residence in Wyalkatchem after Joel refilled the oil level.
Saturday, 1st August 2015:
I phoned Mr. Retif this morning and told him of my findings that the diesel consumption had esculated from approx 17 litres per 100 km to over 50 litres for the 180 km driving, and that the engine had used over 10 litres of oil driving the same distance.
I consider that this oil and diesel problem is a result of [one or more] injector failure. Mr. Retif argeed to have the motorhome transported to Skippers Trucks Workshops at Welshpool where the dasmage could be inspected and evaluated.
I obtained a quote of $880.00 incl GST, from Northam Towing to convey the vehicle to Skippers yard. Mr. Retif said thast he would obtain further quotes from other transport companies and contact me when he had the quotes.
I informed Mr. Retif that due to my age and medical condition, I would need several days to unload my effects and food supplies before towing the motorhome. After 10 days had elapsed Mr. Retif had not obtained any quotes. He told me to go ahead and contact Northam Towing to arrange getting the motorhome to Skippers Trucks for inspection/repair.
Monday, 10th August 2015:
Northam Towing uploaded the motorhome at 9am this morning for delivery to Skippers Trucks, Welshpool.
I now await a report on the condition of the engine and a quote for the repairs after their inspection of the engine and testing of the injectors.
I have posted a rather lengthy post on my Injector matter for general interest-- You will need a nice hot cuppa and a scone to get through it. The outcome is that the injector repairer will not accept any liability and maintains that this was caused by a pre-existing problem.
IVECO INJECTOR FAILURE-SEQUENCE OF EVENTS.
On considering the diesel and oil consumption to date, and the distance driven over the period I have owned this motorhome, it is my opinion that the work done on the injectors has caused or greatly contributed to the engine failure and I list the sequence of events for consideration and evaluation. ***note: Saturday, 1st August 2015 entry.
Tuesday 21 July 2015:
[Skippers Trucks fitted Air Horns. Speedo reading 141,143 km].
United Injectors inspected my concern of slight puff of white smoke from exhaust after short period of idle when revs first increased. I asked the mechanic to run Computer Diagnostic for fault codes. The mechanic did not have correct plug and he would try to obtain one on Saturday (25 July) and as the workshop was very busy he booked in for me to return on Tuesday, 28th July.
Tuesday 28 July 2015: Speedo reading 141,525 km].
I arrived at United Injector premises at 08:00am. The mechanic informed me that they had not obtained the on-board computer plug. The mechanic told me that four new injectors would be about the same cost and could be air bagged from the supplier to arrive the next morning (Wednesday) so I gave the go-ahead to obtain and fit new injectors.
The Service Manager told me that the workshop was very busy, and asked if I could come back on Thursday for the work to be completed. This delay was inconvenient to me as I was living in the motorhome with my dog and I had no other accommodation. It was agreed that I could remain in the motorhome overnight with my dog, parked in United Injectors secure/locked premises.
Wednesday 29th July 2015:
The new injectors did not arrive by air-bag as expected and they had not been dispatched from the supplier. (Bosch in Melbourne). I was told that the existing injectors would be serviced and refitted.
After removing and testing the injectors, I was informed that 3 of the 4 injectors had failed the test and needed replacing at a cost of (quoted ) $2,300.00.
With no alternative option, I agreed to the reconditioning of the existing injectors to have the vehicle servicable again in the shortest possible time.
Thursday 30th July 2015:
After some delay with the servicing the injectors were fitted and the engine was road tested for a short drive of a few kilometers around the local area.
I paid the invoice amount of $2,2007.00, allowing a discount due to the time taken for the work to be completed. I decided to return to my residence at Wyalkatchem to load the on-road fresh food supplies for my extended trip around Australia.
I refueled with diesel at Shell Midland, and after driving approx 92 km on the Toodjay-Goomalling road the oil warning light came on, and the injector warning light started flashing. I stopped the vehicle on the [narrow] roadside and checked the oil. The dipstick was showing just below the min mark. I called the Service Manager (Mr. Retief) at United Injectors and told him of this problem.
Mr. Retif suggested that I drive the motorhome to Toodjay and park in the caravan park as he had a contact mechanic in that area. It would be difficult for me to turn the motorhome around on the narrow section of the road in the very heavy rain, it was decided that I would continue driving (about the same distance-about 20+ km.) to the Caravan Park at Goomalling, which I did after filling the oil level to the max mark on the dipstick.
Friday, 31st July 2015:
I phoned Mr. Retif at 08:30am and he arranged for Joel Carr from Carr's Automotive, Goomalling to attend me at the caravan park and inspect the motor fault. Joel arrived just after 09:00am and on looking at the engine it was found that there was very little oil in the sump.
Joel added oil and had me drive to his workshop where he could make a more detail inspection.
Carr's mechanic found that oil was being blown out of the motor from the oil filler pipe, and that there was a lot of smoke from the breather when the filler cap was in place, indication a pressure in the sump possibly from a blown or cracked piston, which he thought was from an injector over-fuelling and causing a piston crack or meltdown.
Joel reported his findings with United Injectors by phone call to Mr. Retif. I drove the motorhome (at a slow speed) to my residence in Wyalkatchem after Joel refilled the oil level.
Saturday, 1st August 2015:
I phoned Mr. Retif this morning and told him of my findings that the diesel consumption had esculated from approx 17 litres per 100 km to over 50 litres for the 180 km driving, and that the engine had used over 10 litres of oil driving the same distance.
I consider that this oil and diesel problem is a result of [one or more] injector failure. Mr. Retif argeed to have the motorhome transported to Skippers Trucks Workshops at Welshpool where the dasmage could be inspected and evaluated.
I obtained a quote of $880.00 incl GST, from Northam Towing to convey the vehicle to Skippers yard. Mr. Retif said thast he would obtain further quotes from other transport companies and contact me when he had the quotes.
I informed Mr. Retif that due to my age and medical condition, I would need several days to unload my effects and food supplies before towing the motorhome. After 10 days had elapsed Mr. Retif had not obtained any quotes. He told me to go ahead and contact Northam Towing to arrange getting the motorhome to Skippers Trucks for inspection/repair.
Monday, 10th August 2015:
Northam Towing uploaded the motorhome at 9am this morning for delivery to Skippers Trucks, Welshpool.
I now await a report on the condition of the engine and a quote for the repairs after their inspection of the engine and testing of the injectors.
