Re: I thought this most interesting.
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:40 pm
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Re: I thought this most interesting.
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:32 pm
You will go straight to hell for that Bruce, no $200 as you pass go for you I was thinking along the lines of caravans being built as fifth wheelers and the turntable/dolly is added for those that want to tow with rear hitch or a direct coupling via a turntable mounted over the rear axle of the tow vehicle the way they are normally hitched up.
T1 Terry
Re: I thought this most interesting.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:41 am
Something like this Terry?
Hutchinsons Dolly Wheel. Reasonably well known in Vintage Van circles. Not so common with modern van owners
Many different styles, some with two wheels on an axle
http://vintagecaravans.proboards.com/th ... lly-wheels
Jim
Hutchinsons Dolly Wheel. Reasonably well known in Vintage Van circles. Not so common with modern van owners
Many different styles, some with two wheels on an axle
http://vintagecaravans.proboards.com/th ... lly-wheels
Jim
Re: I thought this most interesting.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:26 am
The 2 wheels on an axle but close together was more the idea I had in mind. The problem would be that would be considered as a trailer and require rego and the driver would require a road train licence under current rules.
If the dolly and turntable was part of the caravan creating a sort of dog trailer affair then the extra rego would not be required but possibly a light truck combination licence because it is a dog trailer after all. But then again, a 3 tonne caravan can be towed on a car licence now so .......
T1 Terry
If the dolly and turntable was part of the caravan creating a sort of dog trailer affair then the extra rego would not be required but possibly a light truck combination licence because it is a dog trailer after all. But then again, a 3 tonne caravan can be towed on a car licence now so .......
T1 Terry
Re: I thought this most interesting.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:19 pm
Sorry Terry, I got that info screwed up.
The one pictured is called the Jones Dolley Wheel. Most commonly used on Jamisen caravans but not exclusively. The whole thing is integral to the vans 'A' frame.
The ones with dual wheels on an axle are the Hutchinsons.
In the thread I linked to, one of the more respected members of the Vintage Van community states that he contacted the NSW RTA who told him both types were still legal today. Mind you, that was posted in 2008.
Generally speaking with few exceptions, anything legal when the caravan was made is legal today. This may apply here but the impression I'm getting is that this is not the case for either style. They could be used on a modern van with no legal implications.
I've often wondered why the Jones style, (single wheel with still only one articulation point) are not still offered today. The Hutchinson style would introduce another articulation point. Not sure what the ramifications of that would be on stability.
Jim
The one pictured is called the Jones Dolley Wheel. Most commonly used on Jamisen caravans but not exclusively. The whole thing is integral to the vans 'A' frame.
The ones with dual wheels on an axle are the Hutchinsons.
In the thread I linked to, one of the more respected members of the Vintage Van community states that he contacted the NSW RTA who told him both types were still legal today. Mind you, that was posted in 2008.
Generally speaking with few exceptions, anything legal when the caravan was made is legal today. This may apply here but the impression I'm getting is that this is not the case for either style. They could be used on a modern van with no legal implications.
I've often wondered why the Jones style, (single wheel with still only one articulation point) are not still offered today. The Hutchinson style would introduce another articulation point. Not sure what the ramifications of that would be on stability.
Jim
Re: I thought this most interesting.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:14 pm
I seen one a few years back in Melbourne .
One jocky wheel plus the two normal wheels .
Mate I was with called me up on the UHF to bring my attention to it .
Bernie .
One jocky wheel plus the two normal wheels .
Mate I was with called me up on the UHF to bring my attention to it .
Bernie .
Re: I thought this most interesting.
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:45 pm
Many moons ago back in the CMCA forum days, a member there was developing a single wheel trailer that attached to the rear of the motorhome. It had a dual wheel car tyre set up that swivelled on a tapered roller bearing mount at the rear of the trailer. Can't remember the name but he did bring it to one of the Maleny get togethers. Something like that built into where the tow coupling mounts now on a standard A frame caravan and just a steering bar from there to the tow vehicle ball. that way the axles could be moved back similar to a 5th wheeler to better stabilise the whole rig. The extra axle and wheels would improve the weight carrying ability and no more worry about tow ball weight.
But I still like the turntable/dolly idea so the same van can be either a caravan or a 5th wheeler depending on the tow vehicle.
T1 Terry
But I still like the turntable/dolly idea so the same van can be either a caravan or a 5th wheeler depending on the tow vehicle.
T1 Terry