Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:47 pm
Hey Ray are you the guy that owes me lamingtons from another forum trivia a few years ago?

they were a bonus but I never did receive them.
The short answer is
"NO".
That's also the long answer.
I have not participated in any other forums, apart from the once-deceased-and-now-zombie-version forum of a well-known motorhome club. And I
never offered lamingtons as a bonus prize... only points.
(Not redeemable for anything at all useful.
)
OK...
that's the long answer.
BTW, Shirley, it's your turn.
I thought it would take a while for anyone to find that info... where did
you get it from?
I had to read through to
p88 in Paul Ham's book,
"Vietnam, the Australian War" before I found what I thought was some obscure info for a question.
and a ps: Even Paul's book doesn't give his serial number... that was just a bluff.
Useless Fact: Do you know who recruited him to go to Vietnam and why?
The
CIA paid for Col. Serong to go there to prepare a report on the war to try to convince the Oz govt to send some troops. His report
wasn't quite what they expected. He said it was "worse than he had been led to believe and worsening". He said the Saigon troops (trained by Americans

) had "taken a bucket to a bushfire", adding that if Australia sent troops "We would probably lose some, tactically. We may lose the lot, strategically."
Smart man.
Unfortunately, as often happens, politics got in the way of common sense and solid advice.
Another Useless Fact: Col. Serong later established and commanded the
Canungra Jungle Training Centre in Qld. They even trained Yanks there later, when it became obvious they didn't have a clue about jungle warfare tactics... wearing after-shave & taking transistor radios on patrol!!
