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Re: Flaky Victron Inverter
The Projecta IP2000 has an auto earth/neutral link as well as its own built in RCD, can do the UPS thing so the switch between mains and inverter is seamless and can even run an Ibus 3 rooftop rattler. As long as the coffee machine or hair dryer doesn't require more than 2000w continuous, it will run them fine, it can hold a 20% overload for around 10 mins, just screams for mercy but doesn't shut down. If you do overload it excessively or for longer than it can handle, it just shuts down and you have to do the shut down reboot that fixes computers and all sorts of other devices
They aren't cheap, but they are good and have a nearly zero load power saver mode if you want to use that.
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Re: Flaky Victron Inverter
So, Terry, are you happy with the idea of ditching the Victron and inserting a Mains Auto Switch?T1 Terry wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:54 pm The Projecta IP2000 has an auto earth/neutral link as well as its own built in RCD, can do the UPS thing so the switch between mains and inverter is seamless and can even run an Ibus 3 rooftop rattler. As long as the coffee machine or hair dryer doesn't require more than 2000w continuous, it will run them fine, it can hold a 20% overload for around 10 mins, just screams for mercy but doesn't shut down. If you do overload it excessively or for longer than it can handle, it just shuts down and you have to do the shut down reboot that fixes computers and all sorts of other devicesThey aren't cheap, but they are good and have a nearly zero load power saver mode if you want to use that.
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Re: Flaky Victron Inverter
You can do it that way, but I thought you said you needed the 2000watts for the hair dryer and coffee machine. If you replace the Victron with the IP2000, there is no need for the 3 way switch, the inverter does that part itself.SteveW wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:18 pmSo, Terry, are you happy with the idea of ditching the Victron and inserting a Mains Auto Switch?T1 Terry wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:54 pm The Projecta IP2000 has an auto earth/neutral link as well as its own built in RCD, can do the UPS thing so the switch between mains and inverter is seamless and can even run an Ibus 3 rooftop rattler. As long as the coffee machine or hair dryer doesn't require more than 2000w continuous, it will run them fine, it can hold a 20% overload for around 10 mins, just screams for mercy but doesn't shut down. If you do overload it excessively or for longer than it can handle, it just shuts down and you have to do the shut down reboot that fixes computers and all sorts of other devicesThey aren't cheap, but they are good and have a nearly zero load power saver mode if you want to use that.
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Re: Flaky Victron Inverter
Sorry, Bruce. Beyond my original answer, I can't answer the extra questions because I am not with the MH. It lives at Ashbourne while I live in Glenelg. I only get to make love to it every 3 weeks, or so. Notwithstanding. I am in mind to set up a bypass system so that if the Victron fails, it does not leave me with no power at all, which is the case now other than inverters run directly from the batteries.Brucie2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:25 pm Steve I know you didn't answer any of my questions but your Victron did the job faultlessly for some years so maybe just have it repaired/serviced?
One of the most experienced persons in Australia is the head of The Rainbow Power Company.
Maybe give him a ring & see if he can offer any advice.
In Michael's case here in the marina, his batteries died of old age & until he got himself sorted out he got the local sparkie do simply connect the AC in wires to the AC out wires. Completely bypassing the inverter & any batteries.
Not really an answer for you if you are traveling without a REALLY long cord plugged in somewhere or your genny running non stop to keep your fridge cold etc.
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Re: Flaky Victron Inverter
Steve, IF you go down the bypass switch road, make sure that you ask for 'break before make ' contacts in your switch. The supplier will know what to order.
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Re: Flaky Victron Inverter
Thanks, David. I will certainly seek good advice. Can I assume that the Automatic Transfer Switch would have that feature?supersparky wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:27 pm Steve, IF you go down the bypass switch road, make sure that you ask for 'break before make ' contacts in your switch. The supplier will know what to order.
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Re: Flaky Victron Inverter
Steve , short answer is yes.
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Re: Flaky Victron Inverter
The longer answer is, the inverter checks the shore power is clean and suitable before it will switch from inverter power to shore power. At the same time it disconnects the earth/neutral link that was required to make the on board RCD's work will on a floating type inverter power. I'd have to tunnel deeper if it recognises the generator to be a floating supply and keep the earth/neutral link active ..... David's answer was easier wasn't it
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Re: Flaky Victron Inverter
I had about one and a half pages of probabilities written, but then , seeing as though my technical English is pretty ordinary I went with the short answer.
I think I need one of those science t-shirts before I can write properly.
I think I need one of those science t-shirts before I can write properly.
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Re: Flaky Victron Inverter
I appreciate all of the input. I will now think.
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