President Clown’s Unbeatable Logic

[native pepper]

Was in a hurry yesterday as we were heading out so didn't really look at the links I posted, here's what I was referring to. This is what they are admitting to and they have supported Adani by allowing it to go ahead and probably they will support the other proposed coal mines.

These links show the truth and not the propaganda we are fed by politicians.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... evelopment

"The draft reads: “Labor supports the responsible development of Australia’s gas reserves, subject to environmental approvals to ensure communities’ concerns are addressed through rigorous science-based processes, including gas from coal seams, shale and tight gas formations.”

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... fitzgibbon

"A public battle between Anthony Albanese, Mark Butler and Joel Fitzgibbon over Labor’s language regarding gas has triggered a process whereby the ALP has agreed to support new gas projects, subject to environmental approvals and reaching net zero emissions by 2050."


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... al-parties

"Donation records submitted by major gas corporates and the industry’s peak group, the Australian Petroleum Production and Exploration Association (Appea), show significant and relatively even contributions to Labor and the Coalition since 2010/11.

A separate analysis of the nation’s lobbyist register reveals the industry currently engages at least four external lobbying firms to influence government, in addition to the efforts of its peak group and the ranks of lobbyists working in-house.

A Guardian analysis of available records from 2010/11 shows $6,431,267 in donations from nine major companies with gas interests, including Santos, Origin, Chevron Australia, Woodside and Appea. The figure excludes donations from gas retailers.

In the most recent year available, the 2018/19 financial year, about $826,000 was donated."

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/le ... 7bad86a2fb

"Excluding donations to the UAP, fossil fuel industry donations totalled $1.9 million.

Gas company Woodside donated $135,400 to Labor, $136,750 to the Liberal Party and $11,190 to the National Party.

The top three fossil fuel industry donors, excluding Clive Palmer-linked companies, were Woodside, Adani and the gas industry lobby group Australian Petroleum Production and Exploration Association.

These donated a total of $692,299 to various parties.

Adani Mining donated $50,000 to the Liberal Party of Australia but also gave money listed as “other receipt”, including a further $49,500 to the Liberals, $25,900 to the Australian Labor Party and $15,000 to Pauline Hanson’s One Nation."

https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/02/03/fo ... ions-2019/

"Outside of Palmer’s efforts, mining and energy companies handed a total of $867,000 to the Coalition’s branches across Australia and $574,000 to the ALP. Climate sceptic Michael Hintze also gave the federal Liberals $35,000.

While donations from the fossil fuel sector were consistent with previous years, Palmer’s spending dramatically shifted the political playing field against climate action."

https://www.miragenews.com/donations-da ... -politics/

"The fossil fuel industry in total donated $85,719,747 to Australian political parties. Excluding donations to the United Australia Party (UAP), fossil fuel industry donations totalled $1,894,024."

https://www.acf.org.au/donations_data_r ... n_politics

"The opaque money

Federal Labor disclosed a total of $49,995,144 in receipts, but only provided the details for $48,162,246.
The federal Liberal Party disclosed a total of $48,196,905 in receipts, but only provided the details for $43,980,577.
The federal National Party disclosed a total of $3,099,872 in receipts, but only provided the details for $1,042,174.
Between the parties, $8,106,924 of receipts have undisclosed sources; however, when state branches of the parties are taken into account, the sources of more than $102 million of donations remain undisclosed."

[T1 Terry]

I watched Insiders on the ABC this morning and the shadow environment minister (Terri Butler?) wouldn't answer the question directly as to wether Labor was supporting a full steam ahead on gas but rather side stepped saying they supported gas as a transition fuel to a zero emissions target by 2050 to bring Australia in line with the major powers throughout the civilised world (well, except for Donald's version of the USA) That does say they support gas for the next 30 yrs as far as I understand it, so I conceded on that one, but coal and oil? I guess CSG is sort of coal but I'm not sure where they stand on fracking now, oil for lubrication maybe, who knows, the zero emissions by 2050 does leave 30 yrs of wriggle room so ......
I can't see them supporting any new coal mines or coal fired generators, carbon capture and storage is nothing but a fairy tale, pumping it as a liquid underground is not storage as it will simply work its way back to the surface and escapes.
If someone comes up with the magical solution of separating the carbon from CO2 that green vegetation manages but on a grand scale then it might return to the table, but cold fusion has had a lot more effort put in and is no closer to being achieved so ......

T1 Terry

[native pepper]

Watched insiders as well and agree, couldn't give a straight answer because they don't have one that's acceptable to the people.

Labor is supporting fracking in Queensland and federal labor says it wants to restructure national grid infrastructure to keep the grid viable. Whether that means just the poles and wires or generation, is anyone's guess but being as deceptive as they are and considering the huge amount of donations from the fossil fuel and mining companies, they have little choice other than to support their donors as they always do.

It's notable the number of ex politicians who now work for the fossil fuel industries and still have unrestricted access to ministers. I know most would think otherwise, but I doubt you can find a party politician who has any credibility in supporting what they say are their policies, compared to what they do.

The difference between the Rump and other politicians is the rump has no idea of how to con and deceive people, he just blurts out demands like a true socio-psychopath. Politicians are trained to avoid directly answering as most are lawyers and they are the most deceptive, dishonest profession on the planet.

[T1 Terry]

Watched Trump v Biden last night on SBS and the start of Fake News on the other SBS channel. It did put an idea forward for the mess the USA is in at the moment under Donald's rule, keep the fight fuelled because it distracts away from him changing the subject to something he feels he can use to his advantage. The whole stirring up the coloured issue all those yrs back with full page ads to bring back the death penalty for a number of coloured youths accused and later convicted of raping a jogger ..... years later they caught the real rapist yet trump never apologised for stirring up the hatred and causing the wrong people to be convicted.
There are a lot of role models Donald based his approach to any issue, it very much disagrees with your view NP,

the rump has no idea of how to con and deceive people

he is a master of the tactic, so good many don't realise they have been conned and blatantly lied to because he does it so bare faced with not a hint that what is coming out his mouth is a total fabrication with not even a shred of truth that most conmen weave into the narrative to gain some credibility.
I don't understand why the major news outlets haven't exposed this single minded trick Donald uses over and over again, then each time he used it they could point it out and cause doubt and questioning about what he is saying ...... I don't believe he has any other scripts to follow and would stumble if he had to try something new .....
One thing came out loud and clear, no matter what the facts are, if Trump looses he will not accept it, he still thinks he is the man in charge of his own reality TV show so he can call it anyway that suites him so it makes him the star ......

T1 Terry

[native pepper]

I meant the rump has no idea of how to con people so they don't know until its to late, he is blatant in his deception. However I agree with your comments, a typical psychopath who can only deceive.

[Dot]

I saw some medical lady on the morning show they were interviewing her about the "election" Our interviewer said, "we are having a big race here today" she replied "so are we in a day or so between a stallion and a broken down donkey" She was also asked about the covid situation and she replied " There is no such thing" you could see our interview person was in disbelief and got rid her as fast as he could. I know people like one or the other party but how rude and ignorant are those yanks, how disgusting to speak of someone you don't know with such venom. She must of been taking lessons from the ginger ninja. Just glad not to be over there..

[Greynomad]

STRANGE COINCIDENCE:
The Clown’s alleged ‘voter fraud’ only occurred in the states where Biden leads...
Not very effective, then. A good fraud should have seen a 100% success rate.
His legal eagles are a tad light on specifics ...
Maybe that’s their argument: if Biden has more votes than The Clown, that’s proof of fraud.

[T1 Terry]

Well, it now looks to have moved from Donald's crazy presidential moves to Donald and family trying to get Republican party supports to finance his desperate attempts to hold onto the dream ..... he isn't likely to spend his money on the legal battles because he has financial problems himself and he never likes to loose his own money
The party is beating a hasty retreat from the Donald and co. camp so he isn't likely to get access to Republican funds and I doubt the rusted on voters actually have the funds required to pay for his legal battles ..... I bet Rudy Giuliani etc are in full panic mode, not only won't they get paid, but they won't get a pardon either if Donald looses because he will surely blame them for not getting a win through the courts .... he truly believed that by stacking the supreme court in his favour that he could alter the outcome the way George W did and win an election that he actually lost when all the votes were later counted correctly.
At least Bidden had the good sense not to claim victory before it is set in undisputable concrete, Al Gore would have been the president rather than George W if he hadn't announced that George W had won before all the votes were counted, I doubt another hopeful will make that mistake again ...
Now we will see just how much red necked violence Donald can generate in an attempt to hold onto power ....
Just like many said after Donald got in to the top job, it will be interesting to see what happens over the next 4 yrs ....

T1 Terry

[native pepper]

As the Rump is a cowardly psychopath, it wouldn't surprise me if he just walked out of the white house when his court actions are thrown out. The type of person he is have a tendency to spit the dummy then slink away in a big sulk, the problem the authorities may have is Trump may pardon himself and his criminally corrupt backers, or turn turn against them very soon.

[Dot]

Why not just wait and see. Where do people get all their info for both sides and from whom??? We have no idea what the truth is for over there, we can;t even find out the truth in our small country.