Our Manufacturing Sector

[Greynomad]

It seems that Australia can’t even manufacture such a simple thing as a dog lead!!!

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[BruceS]

I guess you mean the lefties union workers can't?
Australia persee (sic?) makes nothing.
Businesses make things until the unions take over, then the business ships the work over seas.
I love my Indonesian make jocks!!! Feel just the same as the Aussie ones used to.
No one will pay double just to ............. you know what I mean?

[pet-els]

Just replaced my dematic washing machine [made in China] for a new Camec [made in Russia]. First use this afternoon it took 2 hours [heated its water] lesson one learned.
Its a 4kg model and same widthb as the old one but just a wee taller, had to remove my fold up ironing board [to the tip] and alter a small cross piece. Demolished the old one to keep the ss basket, some day a fire place.

PeterH

[BruceS]

The very very dirty word called Globalization ..
Don't click if you aren't going to spend quite some time reading it.
Stuffed up more people & countries than they even knew existed.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... -the-world
Good reading for you Ray & add your 'editors opinion"?

[Dot]

Aust cant even produce orange juice (one or two local companies do) but Riverlander will know all about that. Shepparton Fruit co, trees pulled out, fruit rotting on the ground etc. Used to buy only F&P household appliances but not now as just about every brand all have the same innards like the cars. OK to get workers from here there and everywhere to do most jobs here eg fruit pickers, lazy ozzies on the dole, and don't know how to work. Wages are high but how come those imported workers get paid the same wage maybe cheaper accommodation, but they manage ok. Best meat goes overseas and we pay top dollar for the lesser quality Grrrrrr

[T1 Terry]

Aust cant even produce orange juice (one or two local companies do) but Riverlander will know all about that. Shepparton Fruit co, trees pulled out, fruit rotting on the ground etc. Used to buy only F&P household appliances but not now as just about every brand all have the same innards like the cars. OK to get workers from here there and everywhere to do most jobs here eg fruit pickers, lazy ozzies on the dole, and don't know how to work. Wages are high but how come those imported workers get paid the same wage maybe cheaper accommodation, but they manage ok. Best meat goes overseas and we pay top dollar for the lesser quality Grrrrrr

If they could sell the meat in Aust for the same price they sell it overseas, they could skip the freight costs, import B/S that the likes of China pull, and make even better money than they make now ...... No entrepreneur would deliberately loos money and risk the number of problems that could happen between leaving the meat truck and actually getting paid ...... Logic says we get what we are willing to pay for, nothing more. There might be cases where an overseas owned meatworks might mark down the quality of the meat to reduce the taxes they have to pay, but they wouldn't pass the savings on at the other end, why would they?

This Covid plague that has ravaged the world has made the powers that be rethink whether cheapest is the winning formula, especially when people will pay more once the supply of the cheapest stuff dries up because it is simply too expensive to import stuff now.

We have to buy our battery cells out of China because that is where the quality cells we use are made, no other reason, if there was an equivalent quality manufacturer in Australia, we would pay more just to support an Australian manufacturer.
What really gets up my nose is the Made in Australia" B/S tag. I personally reported a lithium battery reseller who clearly showed the Taiwanese workers in the factory assembling the batteries in his photos on his website, yet had the "Made in Australia" tag on all his product line ...... the only thing that happened was, he took down the photos of the Taiwanese workers in the factory from his website ..... how can anyone trust this sort of B/S that can be bought if you are willing to spend the $$ .... there are so many other examples I could list, but it won't change a thing, if the consumer didn't buy imported goods in preference to genuinely Australian Made goods, the imports would stop bring imported goods in and just buy Australia produce.
Good luck with changing that ......

T1 Terry

[T1 Terry]

It seems that Australia can’t even manufacture such a simple thing as a dog lead!!!
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Only a Chinese manufacturer will produce a line of items and put what ever label you pay for to be part of the packaging. Even if it was designed by "Dan & Sue" in Tasmania, they wold be sold world wide with either Dan & Sue getting a few cents per shipment, or they change the slightest thing in the design and "Dan & Sue" get nothing ...... that is just the way the Chinese work.
They have hounded me for 10 yrs to let them build our control systems and they would even be happy to call the "T1 Lithium Control System" and sell them to me and everyone else in the world who will buy them with us getting a few cents from each order. The only thing that has stopped them doing exactly that but with no T1 lithium tag, I keep updating the design, by the time they have worked out how the last one functions, then miniaturise the circuitry and go through R&D to make it reliable, it is now last yrs or mths or what every, design.
I gave their "technical guru" the specs I required for a progressive load inverter that would only power the circuitry as needed to match the load so the the inverter losses were minimised .... yes, yes, we can make that ....... do you have a working model we can copy and improve? ...... They are still only the imitators, not the innovators yet, maybe they will get there, but I doubt it with their current political attitude ......

T1 Terry

[Greynomad]

it won't change a thing, if the consumer didn't buy imported goods in preference to genuinely Australian Made goods, the imports would stop bring imported goods in and just buy Australia produce.
Good luck with changing that ......

T1,
Had there been an Australian-made alternative, we would have bought it. Unfortunately the only leads on offer in the pet shop were of the same origin: China.

[T1 Terry]

it won't change a thing, if the consumer didn't buy imported goods in preference to genuinely Australian Made goods, the imports would stop bring imported goods in and just buy Australia produce.
Good luck with changing that ......

T1,
Had there been an Australian-made alternative, we would have bought it. Unfortunately the only leads on offer in the pet shop were of the same origin: China.

Sadly, just the end result of yrs of neglect by subsequent govt not supporting or taking a governing position in the business that the govt considers is merely siphoning off funds to the management team or the overseas owners.
We could have had an electric car industry that replaced either Ford or Holden when they left the building so to speak, and well before they poured all that money into them only for it to go off shore and into management pockets.
If a govt, any govt, bails out an industry, they should have a seat on the board so they can watch just where the $$ go, and drag them before the courts if questions need to be asked.

A big investment, sure, but wasn't paying all that unemployment a big cost along with the retraining? They could have spent the $$ retraining them to build electric cars and offset the cost by impossing a tariff on all petrol and diesel fuelled cars imported into the country, along with a pollution levie that had to be paid on a km basis with the rego each yr and that money mandated to be spent on an electrification grid to support the electric vehicle industry to compete with the oil industry like it did all those yrs back when the fuel station network was govt fund supported.

We lost a windscreen producing business, a bolt manufacturing business, multiple car part manufacturing businesses and heaps of flow on businesses that supported these workshops and workers .....

The real question is, will the powers that be learn anything from the past and make improvements in the future .... past experience say no, they won't, but we still vote for them and support them .....

Maybe the ballot papers need a "try again" box where all the parties have to submit a better offer with a guarantee clause that sates if they fail to fill their promises the pay will be at the same rate as those on social security .......

T1 Terry

[native pepper]

Why complain, most have voted for the major parties for ever and nothing will change under the present system, just get worse. When you only elect lawyers, economist, union clones and bureaucrats, any fool can see the only outcome will be a disaster.

All our defence equipment comes from overseas, our new ships, planes, tanks, helicopters, all have huge problems and the aluminium used for building ships etc, is from china and rubbish. No different to just about all things coming into Aus, we have become the dumping ground for faulty materials, goods and junk foods. Yet we have the most natural resources on the planet and export them all, which to any sensible person, is ridiculous.

Wouldn't worry about it to much, if you've been watching the developing climate situation you'd quickly realise nothing we do will change things. Especially now where the Thwaites glacier in Antarctica has developed a huge crack, which they say will collapse in the sea within 5 years, raising sea levels 65cm, something they predicted wouldn't happen until the end of this century.

The elephant in the room is when Thwaites collapses, it will send a tsunami around the planet, up to 50m high and will wipe out most cities on the planet. A tsunami that size will race up rivers and create massive destruction.The majority of manufacturing industries, are close to rivers and that may wipe out a lot of industry. It will also have a huge effect on other glaciers, probably accelerating their melt and collapse.

So we have something to look forward to and when that happens, we will have nothing, no fuels, no commodities, no processed foods as over 85% come from overseas and no manufacturing industry to rebuilt society. The prediction of world societies being gone by 2030, that has been envisaged by by some climate scientists who have been howled down, is looking more and more likely and nothing will be done by our politicians to prepare for it in any way. Just business as usual.