"tanks" TANK

[jon_d]

Keith,

Make sure they test the computer too. If the computer is not controlling the injectors properly, the new engine will have the same failure.

[Dot]

What about getting your RAA or equivilant to also be at their "meeting of minds"? Too many "We THINKs" for my liking. Time to get the big guns out, tell them to just put a new motor in so you can get on with your life and let them fight it out between them. Bloody ridiculous.

[Kelvin12]

Tanks,

You should also be looking at down time for the time you have been deprived of the use of your vehicle. Add to that any accommodation costs involved as well as any fees for documentation etc. Don't give into the bastards.

Terry has pretty well summed it up, that old motor is now just scrap. Any motor has a recondition limit on it and that one certainly now has.

Dirk

[Busman]

I think the older motors have less of a reco limit than the newer stuff.
Was at bus and coach parts one day when the owner took a call from a coach operator in SA, he still ran on old Tourmaster same as ours.
Motor was coming out for its last major overhaul, the fifth. Interestingly the gearbox (spicer 6 speed) had never been out of the coach and it had done over 5 Million klicks.

[Wilbor]

e-mail from Skippers Trucks informs me that they intend to rotate what they think is the faulty injector between all cylinders and test the injectors that way. They are going to use the Easy Diagnostic tool to do something. They think that the bore has now picked up on No. 1 cylinder.

I thought they sent the faulty injector away for a second opinion, perhaps not

[Busman]

Methinks if that injector is the problem, it may only show up when it is warm ?

[Keith Morris]

"tanks" here"---
Skippers Trucks sent the injectors to R. Moore p/l for testing. I am told that Moores' outfit heated the injectors to running temp as part of their testing. The injectors tested ok both at Moores and at United Fuel. Skippers are not convinced that there is nothing wrong with the injectors, so the rotate from cylinder to cylinder to see what more damage they can do to the other cylinders. First it was No2 cylinder/piston, then No1 cylinder/piston----who knows what next. Monday the head came off, Tuesday was testing day, and now Wednesday is wait for an e-mail informing me of the test results and possible cause of the second lot of damage. I am still wanting to know what caused the damage the first time but no answers given to my questions.
Keith.

[T1 Terry]

Subjecting the injector to the same heat stresses it would see in operation is impossible. Each ignition stroke the tip of the injector is in the main combustion flame front yet the body of the injector is in a water jacket sleeve designed to carry the heat away from the injector, the top of the injector is in air and has cool fuel flowing through it, how could anyone possibly duplicate that on a test bed. then consider that at 2,000rpm that injector is exposed to this 2,000 times a minute yet cooled by the fuel flowing through and intake air during the other parts of the cycle, how could anyone duplicate that on a test bed. The golden rule appears to be that electronic injectors are a one use item, not for reconditioning, unlike the older mechanical injectors that could be rebuilt time after time.

T1 Terry

[Dot]

What a mob of twats, here Tanks has had the real experts advice and knowledge and to me it seems that those so called "mechanics" in WA are doing everything the opposite to what 2 very experienced diesel mechanics have said.

[Kelvin12]

Was just having a chuckle here about what Terry was saying. No way could they duplicate the fault let alone publicly state what the fault was. That's just plain dealership waffle for want of a better word if you get my drift. This is the end of the line Tanks, its time for legal action unfortunately. Whatever is going on here is going to raise its ugly head again and probably if you are unlucky just out of the warranty period which I might add they may take it from the original starting time of the vehicle warranty. I think if this vehicle was mine I would be off loading it straight away and hopefully a dealer will get caught with it rather than some prospective new buyer.

Dirk