Info for you older men.

[jon_d]

I appreciate it was in the jokes section and therefore has a disclaimer.

I have 2 points.

1. If our society is going to stop violence, the societal change needs to start somewhere and it needs to have a zero acceptance.

2. Jokes contribute to acceptance, because it's trying to create a story which amuses the receiver though their acceptance of seeing the funny side of the situation being described.


Small steps climb a mountain.

[SteveW]

I appreciate your sincerity with regard to violence Jon, but I don't hold the view that zero tolerance to fun and humor in any way equates preventing violence. Sensuality and sexuality should be equally humorous and serious - for both sexes. I find it appalling that journalists who were always the last bastion of free speech, and particularly the modern female opinion column writers, seem determined to de-sex society and women in particular. A substantial difference between a Christian, Western, atheist or many other liberal societies - call them what you may - and Islam, is the way we hold women up on a pedestal insofar as we acknowledge their beauty and appeal and their value in a roughly equal environment. Far from perfect we may be but we do not subjugate and deride them, nor force them to cover up and hold their tongue. Do we want to be like hard line Islam or do we want freedom for women. Freedom carries the baggage of free speech. Let's not deny it.

Not a personal affront to you, Jon. Just my point of view.

[Greynomad]

Mick & Patrick were walking down a street in Dublin when they passed a timber yard.
On the gate was a sign, "Tree Fellers wanted."
Mick turned to Pat & said, "If Sean wus wid us, we'da got them jobs."

There, Jim/Jon/anyone else
It's a joke...
Have a go at that one for PC content!
(An' I can tell jokes like that one, 'cos I got Oirish ancestors!)

[Jim]

I appreciate it was in the jokes section and therefore has a disclaimer.

I have 2 points.

1. If our society is going to stop violence, the societal change needs to start somewhere and it needs to have a zero acceptance.

2. Jokes contribute to acceptance, because it's trying to create a story which amuses the receiver though their acceptance of seeing the funny side of the situation being described.


Small steps climb a mountain.

100% spot on. But some don't see it this way.

[SteveW]

Denigrating folk who can't spell/pronounce properly? Not giving Maureen the opportunity? Destroying the environment?

[Jim]

Mick & Patrick were walking down a street in Dublin when they passed a timber yard.
On the gate was a sign, "Tree Fellers wanted."
Mick turned to Pat & said, "If Sean wus wid us, we'da got them jobs."

There, Jim/Jon/anyone else
It's a joke...
Have a go at that one for PC content!
(An' I can tell jokes like that one, 'cos I got Oirish ancestors!)

And you have shown that there can be humour in jokes without the hint of any violence/assault/etc.

God bless you also - if you want Him to.

[Jim]

I would further suggest we as forumites need to avoid personal attack.☺

Sadly some cannot help themselves.

[Jim]

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Gee Dot, Lucky you didn't say 'F**k'.
That might have seriously offended some people reading the Jokes section of the Forum.

I am glad to see that you don't do this sort of "name calling" elsewhere, David.

[SteveW]

Mick & Patrick were walking down a street in Dublin when they passed a timber yard.
On the gate was a sign, "Tree Fellers wanted."
Mick turned to Pat & said, "If Sean wus wid us, we'da got them jobs."

There, Jim/Jon/anyone else
It's a joke...
Have a go at that one for PC content!
(An' I can tell jokes like that one, 'cos I got Oirish ancestors!)

Denigrating folk who can't spell/pronounce properly? Not giving Maureen the opportunity? Destroying the environment?

[jon_d]

Steve,

Thank-you.

A small point of clarification because I chose my words very carefully.

I wrote acceptance and not tolerance. Zero Tolerance is bandied about in the law and order area and I purposely choose to avoid that word. Acceptance implies it's up to us to set the standard.