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Re: External painting.

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El Gringo wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:41 am You could also think of using an "enamel add"
It makes the finish harder and glossier, but like a 2 pack gives a shorter pot life.
I sprayed an old car once with house paint and enamel add and was surprised how well it turned out.

If you do use a spray gun with ordinary enamel be aware also of the overspray. Enamel stays wet in the air and will travel for miles and stick to everything in it's path.
2 pack and water based paint is nowhere near the problem as it dries in the air much quicker.

Of course you can also use 2 pack with a brush and maybe a small roller, but pot life is very short.

Personally for a cheap but good looking job I would spray a good enamel with the additive, even if you have to hire a compressor, as the finish is so much better. You can also get auto enamel quite cheap, which would be my preferred finish - still using the enamel add.

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The main issue with 2 Pac is it don't like going over other finishes, so I'm told by paint people.

Not sure of durability of water based paint, maybe simpler for touch up.
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Kappy wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:09 pm I've seen some pretty good results on youtube using rust guard equivalents.

Not sure if I want a glossy finish, quite happy with the current satin finish.

I really want get rid of the remaining artworks that are still there.
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I painted the front wheel rust guard after I stripped the old build of shitty white paint as seen on the rear wheel, all wheels on the bus and trailer have been done the same colour.

Looks ok I reckon.

May just play with some small sample, got my trailer to do as well.
House paint gloss oil based paint will only come out as a semi gloss anyway, close to a satin finish. To get a real shiny gloss finish it would require a 2 pk paint job, strip back to metal and all 2 pk from there up so all paint under the top coat was compatible and the super gloss thinners in all the coats from the bottom up. An incredible deep shine but costs the earth, the thinners is the really expensive bit.
2 pk poly urethane like the Wattyl poly 400u series http://www.wattylindustrial.com.au/docu ... 20U400.pdf and can be applied over old paint as long as it's clean and flake free.
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being a retired painter i would use acrylic and get some small and large rollers and agood quality brush or two. Pick a nice dull day ;) and go for it. You may need to get a retarder to slow down the drying...One thing about water based paint is it wears off an d does not flake like enamel. Have fun M8
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norman wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:37 pm being a retired painter i would use acrylic and get some small and large rollers and agood quality brush or two. Pick a nice dull day ;) and go for it. You may need to get a retarder to slow down the drying...One thing about water based paint is it wears off an d does not flake like enamel. Have fun M8
Thanks Norman,

Are you talking Automotive Acrylic? Acrylic Enamel??

More info would be grateful...please
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Use the acrylic enamel really good stuff. You need to use foam roller sleeves and when you apply it get as good a coat as possible and dont muck about with it too much.Instead of a brush i would use one of those pad thingys {forget the name}...
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norman wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:21 pm Use the acrylic enamel really good stuff. You need to use foam roller sleeves and when you apply it get as good a coat as possible and dont muck about with it too much.Instead of a brush i would use one of those pad thingys {forget the name}...
No air bubble problems with the roller Norman? Never tried automotive paint with a foam roller..... hold on, the quick repair 2 pk primer filler kit has a small foam roller and tray and I've used that on the kombi where we replaced the L/H rear lower quarter panel, worked great so......

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I watched a video of a guy painting his car with a roller using rust oleam paint thinned with terps at 60/40.

As he rolled he was using a hair dryer to deal with bubble,.

The finish looked OK.
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I would practise on the neighbour's car first. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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T1 Terry wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:02 pm
norman wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:21 pm Use the acrylic enamel really good stuff. You need to use foam roller sleeves and when you apply it get as good a coat as possible and dont muck about with it too much.Instead of a brush i would use one of those pad thingys {forget the name}...
No air bubble problems with the roller Norman? Never tried automotive paint with a foam roller..... hold on, the quick repair 2 pk primer filler kit has a small foam roller and tray and I've used that on the kombi where we replaced the L/H rear lower quarter panel, worked great so......

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I did the outside walls of our on-site van with a brush and roller and Wattle Solarguard.
Went on well and stayed there for the 3 yrs we had it.
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