Food shortages

[Greynomad]

The Farmers Federation keeps telling us that Australia produces enough food for 75 million people.

So how come when I go to the supermarket I can’t buy flour or pasta???

[Coolabah1au]

Hmm [emoji3166] that’s strange [emoji848][emoji924][emoji924][emoji924]


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[Shirley]

No shortages of provisions locally, even plenty of toilet paper at Woolies, Quilton 8 rolls $8 limit one package.

[native pepper]

The problem may be, we do produce a large amount of food, but about 85% or our packaged food is imported. Just like our commodities, we give away our raw resources then buy them back value added for a huge cost.

The governments shut down most of our primary food production, food manufacturing and processing industries, to allow uncontrolled imports. All we produce now is grains, cotton, rice and vegetable oils and most if those in their raw state are exported to come back packaged. We have to remember, what is marked product of, or made in Aus, can mean it's packaged or stamped in Aus and not made or produced here at all. The bar codes can give the real truth of a packaged products processing origins.

[Busman]

Well as a primary products supplier to our largest supermarket for the last 30 years, I absolutely refute that. We have had nothing but support from all levels of government and our buyers in all that time.

[native pepper]

Well as a primary products supplier to our largest supermarket for the last 30 years, I absolutely refute that. We have had nothing but support from all levels of government and our buyers in all that time.

Please read my post properly, it was referring to packaged and processed foods, not primary fresh foods and city people live mostly on processed packaged foods. It's only about 10-15% of Aussies live outside urban areas now and most farms are broad acre farms which use huge amounts of chemicals and artificial fertilisers. There were food and diary co-ops everywhere, now you sell to big business and no competition, just lower and lower prices for your commodities, whilst food prices rise and rise for the consumer.

Agree with Bruce, grew up in the same era and every farm had a killing shed, big coolgardie shed where meats and fowl hung and some people got their meat and dairies from our farm. My pop used to sell some of his meats to the local butcher in the town and sold the rabbits we kids shot to the same place, skins were sold to the travelling hide and skin man, who came round weekly to buy up, in his smelly truck.

My granny made great butter and cheese, remember turning the butter churn and watching the water drip from the cheeses hanging up on the fly wire covered veranda. There were food and canning factories everywhere, now doubt there are more than one or two in the country.

[Busman]

I am aware of what your post referred to NP. The supermarkets would probably take exception to your statement that city people basically live off processed foods. If you had ever been in a supermarket DC you would see the extensive, as compared to the packaged section, facilities for fresh food.

Most people who yearn for simpler times seem to forget the dunny down the back of the yard, and having to go on a rainy night. Don't forget there was no electric light down there as well. And the old courier mail (here insert your local rag) which I remember as pretty rough on the arse.

As to lower and lower prices, that is simply not the case, we would not have continued to supply Woolies for 30 years if that was the case. In fact they even suggested we raise our price once when another supplier did. Broad acre farms ? Masses of chemicals and artificial fertilisers ? Our farm was 8 acres and we produced almost 2.5 million food plants per annum from that area.

The whole world is a vastly different place than 60 years ago, if we had stayed back there the rest of the world would have taken this country in a heart beat.

[Shirley]

Guess that is the problem more & more of our country has been overtaken by overseas interests, we need to stop selling off our Sea Ports & Airports for a start, one wonders where it will all end.

[native pepper]

I am aware of what your post referred to NP. The supermarkets would probably take exception to your statement that city people basically live off processed foods. If you had ever been in a supermarket DC you would see the extensive, as compared to the packaged section, facilities for fresh food.

Most people who yearn for simpler times seem to forget the dunny down the back of the yard, and having to go on a rainy night. Don't forget there was no electric light down there as well. And the old courier mail (here insert your local rag) which I remember as pretty rough on the arse.

The whole world is a vastly different place than 60 years ago, if we had stayed back there the rest of the world would have taken this country in a heart beat.

Funny how supermarkets that I've been into since this virus thing to get toilet paper, the shelves of packaged foods are empty. Yet fresh food areas are full and very few people buying them. Asked my daughter who is a floor manager in a huge woolies store, what peoples trolleys consisted of and she said mostly packaged foods and just a smattering of fresh food. Which is what I've seen with their trolleys in the car park and have seen the large amount of fresh food they throw out daily, compared to packaged foods.

Most certainly don't wish for the good old days, other than much less people and much better environment, compared to the wall to wall people and devastation we now have. Grow most of my own food and our local area has a great network of growers who swap and sell their organic foods. I'm into technology in a big way, just hate the way it's used that's destroying the planet purely for profit growth for big business.

They have already taken over this country, we import just about every commodity, compared to back in the old days when we produced everything. We don't have a defence force any more, just a well trained small force inadequately equipped and using all overseas produced equipment. We also gave away all our fossil fuels and are reliant on overseas supplies.

Sure we seem to have just bought oil from the USA to built up our non existent reserves, but it will stay in the USA. If a war breaks out, how the hell will they get that oil here, when the enemy of today is capable of sinking ships from thousand of klms away and we have absolutely no defence against invasion of protecting our borders.

[native pepper]

I am aware of what your post referred to NP. The supermarkets would probably take exception to your statement that city people basically live off processed foods. If you had ever been in a supermarket DC you would see the extensive, as compared to the packaged section, facilities for fresh food.

Most people who yearn for simpler times seem to forget the dunny down the back of the yard, and having to go on a rainy night. Don't forget there was no electric light down there as well. And the old courier mail (here insert your local rag) which I remember as pretty rough on the arse.

The whole world is a vastly different place than 60 years ago, if we had stayed back there the rest of the world would have taken this country in a heart beat.

Funny how supermarkets that I've been into since this virus thing to get toilet paper, the shelves of packaged foods are empty. Yet fresh food areas are full and very few people buying them. Asked my daughter who is a floor manager in a huge woolies store, what peoples trolleys consisted of and she said mostly packaged foods and just a smattering of fresh food. Which is what I've seen with their trolleys in the car park and have seen the large amount of fresh food they throw out daily, compared to packaged foods.

Most certainly don't wish for the good old days, other than much less people and much better environment, compared to the wall to wall people and devastation we now have. Grow most of my own food and our local area has a great network of growers who swap and sell their organic foods. I'm into technology in a big way, just hate the way it's used that's destroying the planet purely for profit growth for big business.

They have already taken over this country, we import just about every commodity and as Shirley says, they have taken over all our air and seaports and large farms, compared to back in the old days when we produced and owned everything. We don't have a defence force any more, just a well trained small force inadequately equipped and using all overseas produced equipment. We also gave away all our fossil fuels and are reliant on overseas supplies.

Sure we seem to have just bought oil from the USA to built up our non existent reserves, but it will stay in the USA. If a war breaks out, how the hell will they get that oil here, when the enemy of today is capable of sinking ships from thousand of klms away and we have absolutely no defence against invasion or protecting our borders.