Phone app

[Grandad]

An incredibly interesting article posted by native pepper. Thank you, NP. If anyone hasn't followed the link I urge you to do so.

Jim

[T1 Terry]

The country where everyone wears a mask and has to have the phone app.

If you mean Japan then you are correct, but I don't think they have a phone app thing going there. The Japanese own just about all the abattoirs that sell meat overseas, the majority of prime cuts goes to Japan, the second grade goes else where and the crap is sold to the domestic market.
It has been that way for a long time. They buy up every available abattoirs and either scuttle it so it can never operate again or develop it into a super machine to take up all the processing they have moved from the other closed down units. That way they minimise the buyers so they can better control the prices. There are a lot of other practices that result in minimising the pay outs back into Aussie coffers but I'm not going into them here.

T1 Terry

[T1 Terry]

Agree totally Steve!
What would a Union boss know about running a business, let alone a country?
I could list a few that did decide to at least try to make a difference but soon learnt that between the media & the hecklers it was easier to go back to their day jobs making millions.
Personally I love to see Clive have a term. (maybe only one?)
Carbon copy of USA with telling the media where to go & just doing what needs to be done.
I would have love to Corrigan pop in & shake things up much more!!
Wouldn't be any Chinese ports or airports I bet!!

Be very careful just what you wish for, Qld learnt that the hard way a few yrs back. Do you really want a trump copy running Australia? I doubt you have enough money or influence to be in the big league, that would put you in the struggle class that makes up the majority. Wasn't Clive the one who bought up a heap of a Malaria drug that has since shown to cause more deaths than cures in a study in the US yet

The federal government confirmed Palmer has a “written arrangement” with the government to acquire the drug for the national medical stockpile.

so it wasn't a "very generous move to help Australians" but rather a money making venture. No idea if this "Fact checker" is actually dealing completely with the truth either, who knows these days https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/05/05/fa ... ronavirus/
There was another multi millionaire who bought up a heap of Covid 19 test kits for Australia, sounds very generous until you find out he also has a written agreement to sell them to the govt, not so generous after all eh
Are you sure you want the country run by these type of people?

T1 Terry

[T1 Terry]

Just winding you up Terry!!

That's why I didn't reply I was going to post that I hoped you were in the minority and thankful we have a compulsory voting system as flawed as it is .... I just can't imagine Australia with an orange prime minister or even a George W that was holding the book upside down when reading to the kids while waiting for his handlers to sort things out Actually, I can't imagine anyone having enough money to buy their way into that position, Palmer tried and failed, but I guess he did influence the vote much like the Greens and their poorly thought out group of rallies through the mining heart of Qld. Still, at least we didn't end up with a career politician, I don't think that is the answer either.

T1 Terry

[native pepper]

Why can't we get good leaders? Most men and women, particularly those who have been exposed to the multitude of facets of life that would make a person wise and experienced enough to run a country, have a skeleton or two in their closet.

Steve, political parties choose candidates according to their loyalty, ability to raise funds, being compliant to party dictates, psychopathic tendencies and brain dead. That goes for all parties and they prefer those who can talk their way out of a straight jacket with every deception and lies they can think of. They have no interest in electing candidates that have brains, knowledge, workable ideas or intelligence. Their only aim is power and supporting their vested interests, never the people or future. Otherwise we may have a decent system that works, but it will never happen until we get rid of the current political system, which in my opinion is fraudulent and unconstitutional. There is no provision in the constitution for preferential voting, it states categorically, elected representatives must be elected by direct vote.

We are in a catch 22 position, there is nothing that can be done to change the system until the public remove the political party system. The only way that can work, is if we have online voting for all decisions by all the people and make it voluntary. Then the people would determine the policies and elect those who have the knowledge and ability to put them into action. It's a simple system which can work now with the internet and it could be mad unhackable, by using the most advanced computing system there is, linux. It would also save governments and councils billions a year in charges made by microsoft to use their last century swiss cheese systems.

Jim, it is interesting and only the tip of the iceberg, it's easily hacked and manipulated.

[T1 Terry]

Sorry NP, I can't agree with that method of getting policy sorted, no chance of getting anything done with decision making by a committee, can you imagine a committee made up of every voting aged person in Australia? The epitome of a hung parliment
I think the better solution would be true independents who worked for the good of the area they represented. Make political lobbying illegal, and a fixed funding for each and every person who has registered for the elected position they are seeking in the form of redeemable vouchers (back to the treasury so it is fully transparent) for advertising and promotion of their priorities. That should block major industries and those with vested interests from buying political favours via election donations.
Will it ever happen? Get real, politics has been a dirty business since its inception, the cavemen would kill off any opposition, the modern way is to just buy them off with political favours.

T1 Terry

[Greynomad]

Nah.
There’s a simpler way.
Hold a nationwide election for the Prime Minister.
No leaving it to the winning party. Direct election by th whole nation as one electorate.
Appointment to last five years, with NO provision for the rest of the parliament to gang up to remove them.
At the end of the five years we have a plebiscite to see if the people approve of their record in office.
If its a yes, they’re re-appointed for five years. If it’s a no, we throw it open for all comers to stand for PM.
After a third positive plebiscite, the appointment becomes a lifetime one and hereditary. Parliament is permanently dissolved and the PM is then given the powers of an absolute monarch, complete with the power to appoint their cronies as dukes with feudal power over the plebeians.

Worked great up until Charles I...

[Dot]

And the answer to all the prev woes and worries over leaders is "Put a woman in the top job" now we await the smart remarks about Julia and Pauline.

[native pepper]

Don't think it makes any difference what sex if running the show now Dot, there are many women in power and in the long run, they turn out just as bad as the men. They only have the control and power the party gives them, if they step out of line, female of male, they get overthrown and we see that regularly in Aus.

They're just figure heads, without their minders, writers and advisers, they are a waste of space.

[SteveW]

Nah.
There’s a simpler way.
Hold a nationwide election for the Prime Minister.
No leaving it to the winning party. Direct election by th whole nation as one electorate.
Appointment to last five years, with NO provision for the rest of the parliament to gang up to remove them.
At the end of the five years we have a plebiscite to see if the people approve of their record in office.
If its a yes, they’re re-appointed for five years. If it’s a no, we throw it open for all comers to stand for PM.
After a third positive plebiscite, the appointment becomes a lifetime one and hereditary. Parliament is permanently dissolved and the PM is then given the powers of an absolute monarch, complete with the power to appoint their cronies as dukes with feudal power over the plebeians.

Worked great up until Charles I...

Where do I nominate?