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""Interesting that most comments on this thread are from self professed non members. ""

Yea, funny that... Wonder why that is... impunity comes to mind ... IMHO that is...!!!

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Re: CMCA board results

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The first yr I joined the CMCA I went to the Berri rally and got to experience the AGM in person. To get a 70% majority at an AGM you just need to stack the meeting with voters who will favour the outcome required. A show of hands is not what I'd call a proper means of voting as it is intimidating to any who do not follow the majority. In the case of the Berri rally the membership was so p*ssed off with the then chairman of the board the crowd in tent were hostile and a lynching couldn't be ruled out. The person involved discovered he didn't have enough in the crowd on his side so he resigned at the last minute. That was almost 20 yrs ago.
Since then the board has changed how things are done so they don't suffer such an embarrassing defeat by the membership. I'd be willing bet good money the membership could not get something through that was against the best interests of the board members, the last attempt I can remember they changed the wording of the proposal so that any postal votes cast became invalid..... the result then was a forgone conclusion.

The only thing that will pull the mat out from under the present board is the loss of membership so many have voted with their feet. Just how many will never be known because the CMCA does not release truthful fully paid full membership numbers, the reality might shake the very foundations of the company as it may not have enough numbers to still justify the need for a company structure.......
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vik351 wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:41 am ""Interesting that most comments on this thread are from self professed non members. ""

Yea, funny that... Wonder why that is... impunity comes to mind ... IMHO that is...!!!

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I wonder who they would be???? ;)
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I think the bit that really hurts is the long term members who pulled the plug because they have been there and seen it from the inside. Once the blinkers are off there is a whole new picture to be seen and it isn't the one painted by those still on the inside looking out ;)
Run it as a "for the members" association the way it was run as a club and the churn rate would slow dramatically and probably a lot of the disillusioned ex membership would rejoin, the longer it's run as a for profit company and the bottom line and growing bank account is the primary aim, the further into the ground the company will go.
Eventually another joining of like minds similar to those that originally started the CMCA will emerge from the ashes with the aim of members first and never allowing those who are looking for a power base to gain control and a huge gap in the market will be filled.

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BruceS wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:35 am People have short memories when it suits?
There is a group of us on this forum & elsewhere that WERE members and we did want to desperately change the direction of the organisation.
The only way to get it 'done' was to band together and try to gain as much support as we could to get a person elected that would change that direction and rid the club of a couple of directors who were quite sure they owned the club.
As soon as this group banded together to achieve this, they were branded as "rebel raisers" and denigrated in no uncertain terms.
Yep, change is possible but at most of our ages, is it worth the effort?
In my case and several others I know .......... it wasn't.
Thanks for your effort Keith! We did get you there!!
Enough of this.......... not many years left to get out there & do it............!! ;) 8-) :lol:
Doing it as much as we can Bruce.
Much of Keiths work has been caried thru by Lorraine.
I did not know we had a now director without qualifying vehicle standing.
The next few months should be interesting, however if the now non members hd got in and supported some of the candidates who may have kept things moving, we may have had a different outcome. T1 has floated a different approach. Maybe its time is near.....
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T1 has floated a different approach. Maybe its time is near.....
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If you've got more than one lithium setup, do you get more votes. :D

I voted for Keith the last year was in CMCA and was heavily harassed via email on the old forum, because of advocating online voting for all decisions. They hated me putting on the forum the facts regarding the difference between an incorporated body and corporation, how members had lost all control over the club and no longer had a say. So they banned me from the forum and threatened me with legal action if I didn't toe the line, so said stick it.

A supposed club which threatens its member with legal action because they put forward ideas which were not in the interests of the board, is not a club, but a corporate dictatorship. The only way an Aus wide club today can work, is if it's on line and everyone has a say and votes on all decisions, otherwise all you're doing is feeding profit growth, the ego's of the board and the growth of a another corporate monopoly.
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native pepper wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:08 pm If you've got more than one lithium setup, do you get more votes. :D

I voted for Keith the last year was in CMCA and was heavily harassed via email on the old forum, because of advocating online voting for all decisions. They hated me putting on the forum the facts regarding the difference between an incorporated body and corporation, how members had lost all control over the club and no longer had a say. So they banned me from the forum and threatened me with legal action if I didn't toe the line, so said stick it.

A supposed club which threatens its member with legal action because they put forward ideas which were not in the interests of the board, is not a club, but a corporate dictatorship. The only way an Aus wide club today can work, is if it's on line and everyone has a say and votes on all decisions, otherwise all you're doing is feeding profit growth, the ego's of the board and the growth of a another corporate monopoly.
Are you starting your campaign of "NP for VP" of the new LLLSC (Lithium Leisure Lifestyle Club) :lol: On line voting and a reduction in yrly fees for being an active member and recording a vote on every occasion a vote was required, that might improve voter turn out eh :P
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Re: CMCA board results

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Huh?? :shock: I'm totally lost. Should I pay my dues next year or not??


P.S. I have no lithium batteries.

P.PS. I actually have no bus.
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Re: CMCA board results

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Oh Oh!!!
Ask Dot about Li batteries? She's still getting over it! They go for ever.......... :lol: :lol:
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